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Saturday, November 22, 2014

What the Ferguson grand jury is waiting for

Cold weather, if they're smart.

Ever notice how riots almost always take place in warm weather? You just don't see photographs of looters dressed up in parkas and gloves carrying television sets on snowy streets.

30 comments:

Glen Filthie said...

I think if the baboons take to the streets they may get more than they bargained for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7MAO7McNKE

Holy smokes! This kind of commentary is incendiary - and it sounds to me that the law enforcers are getting heartily sick of Obama's children and their antics.

John Craig said...

Glen --
I just hope the details of what happened between Wilson and Brown get released, so people can understand exactly what it is these protesters are protesting about. All of the initial accounts about Brown being shot in the back, or being shot as he had his hands up, have been proven wrong. Yet the protesters are still acting as if that was what happened. Amazing. Or maybe not so amazing.

Anonymous said...

Spartan said…

If this confrontation was captured on tape and released tomorrow showing that Brown was 100% the instigator, it wouldn't change the protestors mind one iota. Black Americans are by far the most brainwashed group in the country. Of course, i'm not talking about all of them, i'm talking about them in general terms. I observed a black cop discussing this case with 5 blacks at the gym. He broke down the legality bit by bit in favor of officer Wilson. Of course, the 5 blacks wouldn't hear of it.
Maybe if the black cop had crayons and big pictures, it may have gotten through to them.

John Craig said...

Spartan --
You're exactly right. what most Americans don't realize is that the OJ jury was not a bunch of outliers, but were in fact typical of mainstream black attitudes. They, too, could have been shown a tape of OJ killing Nicole and they still would have noted to acquit.

Anonymous said...

I hope the Grand Jury decision is announced during the onset of a super bad snow storm (with freezing temps.), one that lasts and lasts, for days. What would result would be interesting. I imagine the protesters would have to postpone their protesting.

-birdie

John Craig said...

Birdie --
I hope so too.

Steven said...

As predicted, Ferguson is burning.

I don't know the circumstances of the shooting but to an Englishman, the idea that a policeman ever has to shoot somebody six times who I unarmed is strange. You just get your truncheon out and handle it like a man, or tase him. Wasn't there more than one officer there? In which case, they just wrestle him.

Although I suppose there are more guns in America so the policeman has to consider that he could pull one.

John Craig said...

Steven --
Wilson was alone, and Brown punched him in the face and tried to wrestle his gun from him. (The gun went off inside the car twice). Brown then walked away, then soon after charged at Wilson. Brown was 6'4", 295 pounds.

Steven said...

He shot him in the back, though, didn't he?

The way you put it, it does sound close to as justified a shooting of an unarmed man as you could get.

The 'protesters' don't seem to consider circumstances, do they?

John Craig said...

Steven --
No, some of the initial reports from witnesses were that he was shot in the back, but three separate autopsies (including one commissioned by the Brown family) found that five of the six shots were fired while Brown was facing Wilson, and the sixth shot was hard to tell (depending on what position his arm was in).

No, the protesters' attitudes is, facts be damned.

Steven said...

This doesn't reflect well on African Americans. They don't look like freedom fighters or civil rights activists; they look dumb and criminal and uncivilized- content to destroy their own environment. I'm sure there are plenty of peaceful protesters but the criminal ones just make their people look bad.

Reading the comments on CNN, the majority of the commenters are condemning the rioters candidly and without too much regard for political correctness. It seems that a lot of people feel the same way we do about it. Sometimes common sense still prevails.

John Craig said...

Steven --
Yes, this case seems so open and shut that it has provoked a backlash even in liberal environs like CNN. I"m actually writing a post about this situation right now.

Anonymous said...

"I just hope the details of what happened"

That will work with the muddled middle but it won't work with the brainwashed fanatics, as others have pointed out.

I read on National Review (sorry, no link, this is from memory and I am in a rush) that the Federal government cooperated with the grand jury. I think the context was that the prosecutor said that the GJ got cooperation from all branches of gov't. (That's actually a good sign, don't you think?)

Now, the same article said that Wilson is still the object of a Federal investigation. So my question to you is: how can the Federal government continue its investigation now?

Wilson will also be persecuted by the Brown family in a civil suit. I hope that fails as well.

I read that Wilson just got married, and that people have contributed a lot of money to his defense fund, but still this must be a nightmare.

Coco

John Craig said...

Coco --
Yes, it wouldn't be surprising if a Holder-influenced DOJ went after Wilson for violating Brown's civil rights, though this seems like such an open and shut case that the DOJ's case would be futile, at least with any sort of remotely reasonable jury (always a question mark). Ditto for the civil suit: it all depends on the jury.

Some major media outlet evidently printed the name of the street that Wilson lives on.

hick said...

John the New York times has a marriage announcement for officer Wilson they were kind enough to include his town and the street he lived on. probably applicable to your post. Steven to put the U.S. crime and race thing in perspective traditionaly whites from Appalachia are considered the most criminal inclined whites in the states. they are mostly decended from ULSTER protestants. they own lots of firearms. they're considered kind of slow. they like fighting.one of the traditional industries is moonshining which breeds a wonderful respect for the law. it's also the poorest region of the U.S. . one part of Appalachia split of from the slave owning lowlands during the civil war. this is the state of West Virginia, it has the third lowest state crime rate in the U.S. and is the fourth whitest. i'll say it again the cousins of Ulstermen with a culture of guns a respect for being able to take care of ones self in violent manner and high rates of poverty make for relatively peaceful state due to the lack of blacks.

John Craig said...

Hick --
Thank you, yes, the NY Times is what I heard, though I hadn't seen it myself so I wasn't sure. Amazing that they would do that. I've never seen them include a street address in any other wedding announcement. What a bunch of slime balls.

You're right about WVA -- people always make fun of "inbred hillbillies," but the statistics don't like.

hick said...

good god your polite. I don't know if it's useful and sorry about my html ignorance but here goes. http://www.nytimes.com/news/ferguson/2014/11/24/quiet-wedding-for-darren-wilson-police-officer-in-ferguson-shooting/?rref=homepage&_r=0

John Craig said...

Hick --
Most people would differ with you on my politeness, but thank you.

Just read the article; yes, what a bunch of hypocritical weasels. All the propaganda that's fit to print.

Anonymous said...

I took a look at the marriage announcement and saw that at the bottom, the Times apologized for putting up the photo with "information that should not have been made public."

Unfuckingbelievable. The Times knows damn well that there's a million screen shots of that image now, circulating the internets.

Apologies for my language. I don't know your policies. You may edit as you see fit.

Coco

John Craig said...

Coco --
I agree, it's unfuckingbelievable.

My policy on comments is, I print absolutely everything relevant to the post.

And here's my policy on swearing in print:

http://justnotsaid.blogspot.com/2013/08/punctuation-marks-for-dainty.html

Anonymous said...

LOL. One of the reasons people write representations of obscenities is because other sites do have censorship rules. On the other hand, on sites that don't, and you write the representation instead of the real thing, you look affected, it's true.

I guessed your policy before I read the post and I thought that my swear word was OK because I don't overdo it, it was a little bit creative and because, well, that's what it was: unfuckingbelievable.

Coco

Anonymous said...

PS to above - it's a simple fact that even in this day and age, people think less of a woman who swears. Yes, even in these modern times, it is a fact.

But I couldn't think of another way to express my outraged incredulity, dangnabbit!

Coco

John Craig said...

Coco --
I'm happy to post whatever you say, especially since you're so fucking amusing.

John Craig said...

PS -- Promise not to think less of you because of your foul mouth.

Anonymous said...

You may have already seen this in the morning news:

nypost.com/2014/12/08/eric-garners-widow-denies-race-was-chokehold-motive/.

Seems the protestors have been too busy on the streets to notice... --Audrey

John Craig said...

Audrey --
I did see that , thank you. These protesters seem to be acting out some unresolved feelings about their parent or something…..

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Guess any excuse will do. And too much time on their hands, for sure. --Audrey

John Craig said...

Audrey --
Exactly. People with jobs don't have time to protest.

Anonymous said...

Heard a blub on the radio last night regarding Columbia law students and found this online this morning.

blogs.wsj.com/law/2014/12/08/columbia-law-school-lets-students-postpone-exams-due-to-grand-jurydecisions/?mod=smallbusiness/

The gist of the article is summed up by the first paragraph:

"Columbia University Law School is allowing its students to reschedule their exams if they feel traumatized by the recent grand jury decisions in the Eric Garner and Michael Brown Cases."

Traumatized? -- For real?

I'd hope these future litigators would have a thicker skin. If they're traumatized now, what will their reaction be when they lose their first case in court?

Or, maybe they just need more time to study... -- Audrey

John Craig said...

Audrey --
Yes, and it's not just Columbia, now Harvard Law has joined them. you're right, it's utterly ridiculous. if Ferguson and the Eric Garner grand jury decisions are good reason for postponement, why not all the real tragedies that have occurred in the past decade, like all the terrorist strikes, all the natural disasters, all the plane crashes, etc. Or, since the two schools seem to want to make a political statement, why not each of Obama's drone strikes which have taken the lives of innocent children?