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Thursday, September 22, 2016

"Punchable faces"

I was going to put up a post about how MSNBC host Chris Hayes --




-- has one of the most punchable faces ever. He's soft, epicene, and exudes conceit. But a quick Google search of "Chris Hayes punchable face" yielded a lot of results, so this observation is obvious on its face, so to speak.

The search also led me to the Voat.co section on "Punchable faces." It's interesting to scroll through their list of such faces and see the common threads that run through them. A lot of the people shown are overweight, or at least soft-looking. And they all look extremely pleased with themselves.

It seems that at least part of what sparks the instinctive wanting-to-mash-their-noses-in reaction is the thought, "That person has no reason to look so proud!"

Another common thread that runs through the site is that a high proportion of the punchable faces -- though not all -- belong to Lefties. This makes sense: social justice warriors tend to be narcissists. Male SJW's also tend to have lower levels of testosterone, at least among whites. So they generally have a much softer look. And feminists tend toward obesity (which often has something to do with how they arrive by their resentment of men).

I've written previously about how Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush have instantly dislikable faces, so the political correlation is not perfect. But the correlation is real, and it's hard to avoid the conclusion that that says something about Lefties.

Scroll through that site, you'll see what I mean.

38 comments:

Anthonyhehasnoname said...

The question I want to know is that if a person changes their political views or others by sheer choice, do they change appearance over time? I have read about people being thrown into prison suddenly gaining a good deal of muscle mass despite the inadequate nutrition and very basic weightlifting available, simply as an adaptation to their new environment. What do you think?

John Craig said...

Anthonyhehasnoname --
My guess is that politics follow physique, not the other way around. As far as the prison transformations, those are mostly due to weight-lifting, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are some steroids involved, illegal drugs are often available in prisons. Plus I'm sure a lot of them see its a matter of self-protection. I'm also under the impression that very few white people go to medium- or maximum-security prisons and come out as do-gooder, affirmative action-supporting liberals, whether or not they gain weight.

Anonymous said...

This is actually kind of a funny post. Before reading this blog, I'd never even conceived of anyone having a punchable face. I agree with the people that you list as having this quality. On another note, regarding prison transformations (more on a physical level), when Michael Douglas's son, Cameron, came out of prison (his druggie son), his body definitely transformed from a scrawny body type to a muscled up body type. He looks better today than when he entered the slammer. I have wondered if the son is disordered or just basically a druggie.

-birdie

John Craig said...

Birdie --
Thank you, but the phrase "punchable face" did not originate with me. It's a meme on the internet.

When I saw those pictures of Cameron Douglas coming out of jail, my first thought was, steroids. That transformation was just too extreme. And a guy with the kind of money his father would have provided for him would have access to all sorts of drugs in prison.

gambino dellacroce said...

Did you steal this segment from heartiste? Liberals pull this same facial consistently,like theyve taken a,crap in their pants

Anonymous said...

Mostly I agree with you about the overweight issue. But some of my favorite entertainers have been heavy. Jackie Gleason who I adore and was overweight but he looked forceful he was a very handsome man in person by the way.

I know you're not saying that overweight means punchable, but I just had to put this. There is another punchable shitlib whose name I forget, and he's extremely thin.

Puzzled

John Craig said...

Gambino --
I don't steal. I'm sure the aplenty of stuff I've said has been said elsewhere, before, but I can't keep track of everything everybody says. And as I acknowledged three comments above, "punchable face" is a meme on the internet.

John Craig said...

Puzzled --
Paul Krugman?

Mark Caplan said...

I can't conceive of a smuggier mug than the one owned by NY Times op-ed moralizer and know-it-all Charles M. Blow:

http://www.azquotes.com/public/pictures/authors/21/91/21917aab777d7cfd5ffa3bc93e67ee63/548658292cef0_charles_m_blow.jpg

John Craig said...

Mark --
That picture sure makes him look smug. I've generally found that black people (with the exception of Obama) tend to suffer from this particular malady less than whites do.

High Arka said...

I was in no danger of watching MSNBC, and even if someone had it on in the background somewhere, I wouldn't have looked. But John, just in case there somehow was an unknown danger prior to this moment, that danger is now forever in the past. I thank you for that added reassurance.

John Craig said...

High Arka --
Now that you've been forewarned, you can just avert your eyes.

Anonymous said...

Not Krugman. FWIW I don't think his face is especially objectionable.

He's very young, very thin, very white and was a finalist on some punchable shitlib online contest.

I agree w/Mark about Charles Blow. I can't read him. I've never seen a smugger more punchable mug than his.

To be fair, a lot of those snapshots are terrible and it's difficult to get a good one. But his takes the cake.

Puzzled

Anthonyhehasnoname said...

So what do you think happens if someone legitimately changes their political and worldly view through sheer choice after their face sets in? Do their heads split into bloody pieces?

John Craig said...

Anthony --
Good question. But as a general rule, I've noticed that self-improvement and a conservative viewpoint tend to go hand in hand. If you blame "society" or "the establishment" for everything, you're less likely to be the kind of person who can stick to a diet. Again, obviously not a perfect correlation, but it is a positive correlation.

Pangur said...

RE the concept of punchable face: the Germans have a word for it, "backpfeifengesicht."

Interesting post, John.

A big part of the alt right ethos is getting in shape and lifting, and I'd be surprised to find that the effeminacy of the left isn't a causal factor. Also, if you look at a lot of the libs, there's a lack of sexual dimorphism -- the women are mannish and the men look like Chris Hayes. Rachel Maddow comes to mind, as does Sally Kohn.

A half-serious thread: https://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8905-physiognomy-is-realphysiognomy-israel/



John Craig said...

Pangur --
Thank you.....The Germans have a better vocabulary. We had no word for schadenfreude, so just took theirs.

No question about the libs. I wrote about that effeminate men/mannish women thing here:

http://justnotsaid.blogspot.com/2011/09/two-hikers.html

Just took a look at that thread. No question, physiognomy is destiny.

gambino dellacroce said...

John

Only said in jest. I had a look at heartiste's archives and it is "punchable shit-libs" series I recalled.

What I can't stand in this pictures and which is what you pointed out, is the smug self satisfaction. And there is that ridiculous face liberals pull (e.g. Stephen Colbert) when they think the have made some clever witty point that demonstrates their intellectual and moral superiority: the lips protruding out in a little pout, coupled with the eyebrow raise. It looks like they actually have taken a dump in their pants. At least Dr Evil was in jest.

John Craig said...

Gambino dellacroce --
Ah, sorry. After I wrote my reply to you it occurred to me that maybe you were joking. To not have been wouldn't have sounded like you. I'm just sensitive, I guess.

Yes, everything about them makes my skin crawl. And I grew up with people like that.

Anonymous said...



I think it was only last week that I wrote some other insane comment about Chris Hayes, to the effect that if I were a wasp, I would want to lay my eggs inside of him, so that as my larvae hatched and ate him away from the inside I could watch and enjoy his increasingly deranged comments (like those of poor old HAL-9000 from "2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY" as Frank relentlessly unplugged Hal's cognitive circuits) about how the larvae "only wanted a better life for themselves" and how they should all receive scholarships.

Another person's face that I have a visceral enemy's hatred for is Jacques Lacan. I will try to find a sample that triggers me, so that you can examine it as well, and see if you concur.

====FAKE BABA

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs1TGcCs1w4

LACAN

----FAK3 BABA

John Craig said...

FAKE BABA --
"Slowly eat him from the inside face" might be a more appropriate fate for some of these people, but it's not quite as succinct as "punchable face." I certainly understand your sentiment, though.

I know what you mean about Jacques Lacan, and with him the malady is exacerbated by that slow, pedantic way of talking. But I generally find that the severity of punchable face declines with age, so he didn't ignite quite the same instinct in me that Chris Hayes does.

Mark Caplan said...

The Ford Foundation is reportedly funneling millions of dollars into the Black Lives Matter domestic terrorism organization. According to Ford, one of the grave dangers threatening our existence is hypermasculinity:

"We are living in anxious, often frightening times. Earlier this month, the deaths of Philando Castile and Alton Sterling sparked a new round of public protest against the toxic blend of racism, hypermasculinity, and state violence that has taken the lives of too many black men and women and people of color in the US."

https://www.fordfoundation.org/ideas/equals-change-blog/posts/why-black-lives-matter-to-philanthropy/

John Craig said...

Mark --
Both black men and black women have higher levels of testosterone, on average, than the respective sexes of other races. If the Ford Foundation is going to target "hypermasculinity" as one of the causes of black deaths, they should take a clear-eyed look at the segment of the population that is in fact causing most black deaths. It's true that higher levels of testosterone are correlated with higher levels of violence, and it's also true that lower levels of inhibition are correlated with same. So why not take an honest look at what's causing these deaths? It's not "state violence."

Anthonyhehasnoname said...

Do you think plastic bottles are part of a conspiracy to lower testosterone and induce defects? They can leach chemicals and estrogen, they get into the water, they are everywhere! Don't forget contraceptives, they also get into the water and affect the fish we eat!
What do you think about conspiracy theories? Which ones do you suspect? Is it the illuminati or do they go by a different name? What is the goal of many of these companies that are responsible for many of these things?!?!?!?!??!

John Craig said...

Anthonyhehasnoname --
I doubt that the original purpose in creating these plastic water bottles was anything but what they were designed for, a cheap and effective way to bottle water. And I doubt that the makers of contraceptives originally had anything in mind but contraception. So, no conspiracy there. However, once the harmful environmental effects of these products were discovered, I certainly wouldn't put it past these companies to cover it up.

I'm not familiar with the Illuminati. But sure, some conspiracies do exist. Every time we see electoral fraud, that's a conspiracy. The VW emissions fraud was a conspiracy. Actually, anytime two or more people conspire to break the law or fool the public, that's a conspiracy, so there are way too many of them to count.

Anonymous said...

Conspiracy theories bore me. People like cheap, easy, convenient and deadly products and Big Business caters to that. That's all there is to it. Once that's in motion, Big Business will do anything to protect their market. Cigarettes are a case in point. Nicotine is very addictive. I quit. No one forced me to smoke. The cig companies lied for years about the effects of cig smoking. I still quit.

Puzzled

Rifleman said...

lol.

Full video of el facio punchablito!!

John Craig said...

Rifleman --
That guy really had a punchable personality as well.

Lucian Lafayette said...

Google "David Brock" of Media Matters. He started out as a skinny, moderatly right-wing type but as he got more politically leftist, he got pudgier and more "punchable".


Weird.

Luke

John Craig said...

Luke --
You're right. Wow. That evolution rarely happens, both physically and politically. Most people move rightward as they get older, and most punchable faces become less so as they age. But Brock went the other way. Not sure why he affects that long hairdo, either, but it's not doing him any favors.

Anthonyhehasnoname said...

Do you think a person can choose their views if they tried hard enough to?

John Craig said...

Anthony --
Sure. I don't even think it's that hard.

Anthonyhehasnoname said...

Then I suppose a leftist can make super gains if they are bodybuilding by changing their views! Or at least it will make them more handsome.

Anonymous said...

I know a pair of twins, one is the biggest most naive weenie imaginable, the other is incredibly gloomy and serious. They ended up looking different over time, they diverged as they got older. Punchable faces are earned after years of being punchable as a person.

John Craig said...

Anon --
So which one had the punchable face? The naive weenie? And where they identical twins or fraternal ones?

I think there's something to what you say about how those faces are earned. Think of Chris Hayes....Paul Krugman.....Jeb Bush.

High Arka said...

Dammit John, I didn't know who Chris Hayes was, so after skimming this post I googled "Chris Hays," it corrected me, and now, by God, I know. It looks like a more feminine Rachel Maddow with slightly less makeup. Anyway, it's now in my memory and it's your fault. ;-)

John Craig said...

High Arka --
"It looks like a more feminine Rachel Maddow with slightly less makeup" -- That's putting it kindly.

But now it sounds as if you want to punch me. Well, if you really want to, I'll make myself available.