tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post3087501866492461478..comments2024-02-17T04:06:00.805-05:00Comments on Just Not Said: Aspies deserve sympathy (but aren't good at getting it)John Craighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-13710468166257891942017-02-18T04:44:13.422-05:002017-02-18T04:44:13.422-05:00Anonymous Autistic guy --
You're absolutely ri...Anonymous Autistic guy --<br />You're absolutely right. It's hard to work up sympathy for the self-righteous. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-16239141011004467292017-02-18T00:29:57.668-05:002017-02-18T00:29:57.668-05:00Autistic guy here:
The worst part for an aspie (or...Autistic guy here:<br />The worst part for an aspie (or more fittingly someone with fullblown autism) are the memories if they have any before turning 3. Autism in i reckon 50% of cases doesn't set in till 2-3.<br />Some of the more severely autistic people who are intelligent enough to communicate with a keyboard have expressed how they wish they could regain their speech and go back to being normal when they were toddlers. I remember there was a girl who would hit her head on the wall and shake, and she said using a computer that she feels she can't stop herself even though she keeps on trying, like her body is possessed. So yeah, it is easier to feel sympathy for someone with more severe autism since it is more obvious. <br /><br />There is a huge split in the autistic community between higher functioning members who are supremacists and lower functioning members who have said over and over how they would rather be normal. To which the higher functioning members usually say "oh you feel sad since society doesn't accept you!" to which the severely autistic people often say "bullshit". I think that there would be much more sympathy for a person no matter how severe if they hated their autism. I dare say hating one's autism is needed for truly loving oneself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-61902946845897349642016-11-12T21:41:09.015-05:002016-11-12T21:41:09.015-05:00Can't log into my usual account:
Btw I just wa...Can't log into my usual account:<br />Btw I just want to let you know meds for schizophrenia only cure the positive symptoms such as psychosis, hallucinations and delusions. The negative symptoms such as indifference, lack of empathy, cognitive and planning deficits, flat voice, intense gazing during conversations and more do not disappear. I got that impression and just wanna clear it up in case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-27756683722280812682016-11-09T21:34:30.029-05:002016-11-09T21:34:30.029-05:00With the severe cases it does go into outright ins...With the severe cases it does go into outright insanity with self harm, stimming, drooling, and epileptic seizures, a brain problem like Parkinson's or Alzheimer's . I still I am surprised a few people still are too pc to say THAT at least is a full blown mental illness, not a mere "different way of being". They may not hear voices in the head but it's clearly a type of craziness. And that would mean milder cases are only just less insane relatively speaking. <br /><br /><br /><br />George Pingashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04324620353987918893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-71673575413706197232016-11-09T16:45:42.953-05:002016-11-09T16:45:42.953-05:00George --
I wouldn't use that word, it's t...George --<br />I wouldn't use that word, it's too vague and all-encompassing, and they're not quite divorced from reality in the way that schizophrenics or psychotics are. With them, it's more like they just miss a lot of cues. So, in a way, if you wanted to, you could describe that as a form of insanity, being divorced from the very real world of visual cues and body language and so on, but it really stops short of outright insanity. I agree that it's completely different from narcissism and sociopaths, both of which are basically defects of character. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-77103580732000310352016-11-09T13:51:49.197-05:002016-11-09T13:51:49.197-05:00Btw, have you thought about just considering autis...Btw, have you thought about just considering autistics insane? Which is kinda true. People feel sympathy for bipolar schizophrenics and drug addicts because everyone knows they are kooky in the head. That genetic link I posted makes me believe that it is the case. It's quite logical. Autism belongs with the other mental disorders, not sociopathy or narcissism. They just are nuts, no need to make it so complex. Why hasn't anyone thought of it this way before?George Pingashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04324620353987918893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-72547713399466139072016-11-01T16:59:02.823-04:002016-11-01T16:59:02.823-04:00George PIngas --
That's interesting, I'd n...George PIngas --<br />That's interesting, I'd never heard there was a link between autism and schizophrenia before.....That would be great if they could find a drug to "cure" autism, I hadn't heard that before either. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-58653979724918556492016-11-01T13:20:58.062-04:002016-11-01T13:20:58.062-04:00https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/brain-t...https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/brain-tissue-study-deepens-autism-schizophrenia-link/<br /><br />There is some link, it may be that autism is a type of schizophrenia that strikes at 2-3 while regular schizophrenia strikes during adolescence. I wonder what the hell is going on. I saw the post above about environmental factors and increasing rates. I suspect all these disorders are maybe increasing in severity, maybe not in incidents. They found autism and schizophrenia both cause hyperplasticity but the former leads to too much brain mass while too little in the latter due to the age when they strike. A drug is being developed to prune an autistic brain but a drug may not be possible for a long time to add extra mass for schizophrenia. God....The world looks like it's going to hell.George Pingashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04324620353987918893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-49859147730307874082016-10-29T20:18:51.695-04:002016-10-29T20:18:51.695-04:00George PIngas --
As far as all the "shit"...George PIngas --<br />As far as all the "shit" on autism, I write about it because I've had some personal experience dealing with it, and I've had some observations on itI haven't seen elsewhere. I've had exactly zero experience with schizophrenics, so don't write about them. I can't speak for why other people do or don't pay them attention. As far as how difficult they are to be around, I don't doubt you, a schizophrenic off his meds is basically bat shit crazy, so, yeah. What I write about on this blog is mostly sociopaths, since that's what I've had the most experience with, and what so many famous people are. You'll have to go elsewhere to find out more about schizophrenics.John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-45171071168758223912016-10-29T17:45:37.066-04:002016-10-29T17:45:37.066-04:00Also sorry to ask but could you reply to the detai...Also sorry to ask but could you reply to the details in my post if you have time? Answering this would mean a lot. I have a schizophrenic cousin and it's 1000x worse being around him for everyone than any aspie I've met. Look at the article I linked for some idea Where is the attention given to us? God!George Pingashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04324620353987918893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-61300666681665406052016-10-29T17:41:07.378-04:002016-10-29T17:41:07.378-04:00So why is there all this shit on autism but not sc...So why is there all this shit on autism but not schizophrenia? George Pingashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04324620353987918893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-70254948163708080172016-10-29T17:14:06.828-04:002016-10-29T17:14:06.828-04:00George Pingas --
If that was you posting as "...George Pingas --<br />If that was you posting as "Unknown" earlier today, then I did get it. Comments don't go up automatically, this is one of those blogs where comments have to be "approved" by the blog's author before they're posted. I'll pretty much approve anything as long as it has to do with the post. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-24151407046994040712016-10-29T17:11:57.390-04:002016-10-29T17:11:57.390-04:00Unknown --
I don't think there's quite &qu...Unknown --<br />I don't think there's quite "mass hysteria" over autism these days. A number of the recent mass shooters have been thought to be somewhere along the autistic spectrum, but if anything that's been hushed up. Also, where did you get that Timothy McVeigh was schizophrenic? I just read the entire Wiki bio of him, and there's no mention of schizophrenia. The only recent schizophrenic mass killers I've heard of are Jared Loughner (the Gabby Giffords shooter) and James Holmes (the Aurora shooter). <br /><br />No question, living with someone who has schizophrenia would be tough. <br /><br />Also, schizophrenics don't do "the exact same shit" as autistics. In fact there's not even that much overlap from what I can see. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-51096570087739031442016-10-29T15:12:26.525-04:002016-10-29T15:12:26.525-04:00Anyway I will try again, just delete the rest in c...Anyway I will try again, just delete the rest in case.<br /><br />So why is their a media frenzy of autism but not with schizophrenics? When the newton shooting happened there was no end to it, but nothing got said when the oklahoma bombing happened about Timothy McVeigh who was schizophrenic. There are numerous similarities between them such as lack of empathy or social skills, rages, obsessions, repetitive behaviour and more, but there are mutually exclusive features such as overplasticity in the autistic brain but underplasticity in the schizophrenic. <br /><br />There are numerous groups and forums filled with spouses of autistics expressing rage, hate, and vindictiveness while the ones for schizophrenics even after decades of physical abuse and being reduced to changing diapers they still say they feel sorry for them. Living with a schizophrenic can be hell: http://www.salon.com/2011/01/12/schizophrenic_mother_tucson_reaction_open2011/<br /><br />I even read a post by a guy expressing his hatred of autistics, calling them a scourge on society, expressing how they should be dragged and shot calling them worthless soulless beasts yet in another post says he feels sorry for schizophrenics. A schizophrenic isn't some guy who hallucinates voices, it affects their entire behaviour causing delusions, long rants about people out to get them, and action controlling and abusive.<br /><br />If you made a post about it, you wouldn't get a bunch of smug armchair experts talking about how much they are stupid annoying worthless beings.<br /><br />So what's the deal? Everyone goes on about autism and violence but no one says a thing even if a schizophrenic can sometimes be more horrible to be around!<br /><br />Any thoughts? <br />George Pingashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04324620353987918893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-11637843496011080532016-10-29T15:01:12.004-04:002016-10-29T15:01:12.004-04:00Did you get my reply to this post?
It didn't ...Did you get my reply to this post?<br /><br />It didn't seem like it went through on my phone so I made multiple dunno.<br /><br />Does it happen?George Pingashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04324620353987918893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-16100642305543116752016-10-29T14:44:33.545-04:002016-10-29T14:44:33.545-04:00Why is there a mass hysteria over autism now but n...Why is there a mass hysteria over autism now but nothing said over schizophrenia? When we heard of the newton shooting there was no end to it but the Oklahoma City bombing was done by a schizophrenic Timothy McVeigh.<br /><br /><br />There are numerous forums where spouses of autistics rant and express rage, but the equivalent for schizophrenics, many feel sorry even after suffering decades of physical abuse and have been reduced to changing their diapers. Living with a schizophrenic can be hell too:<br />http://www.salon.com/2011/01/12/schizophrenic_mother_tucson_reaction_open2011/<br /><br />There are overlapping symptoms such as decreased empathy, rages, repetitive behaviours, obsessions etc but they are mutually exclusive conditions in some way, autistic brains have overplasticity leading to constant overactivity and exhaustion but schizophrenics have too little leading to dementia and old age like behaviours.<br /><br />A schizophrenic is not just a guy who hallucinates once a day, it actually affects their regular behaviour strongly. I don't get why they see them differently, I actually know of an internet troll who says how he hates autistic people calling them subhuman worthless shits, things that should all die and be killed but in another instance expressed sympathy for schizophrenics even if they do the exact same shit and have similar symptoms!<br /><br />What do you think?George Pingashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04324620353987918893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-38833457896781019442016-09-30T11:14:57.998-04:002016-09-30T11:14:57.998-04:00The truth is somewhere inbetween the Nazis and Sov...The truth is somewhere inbetween the Nazis and Soviet, both environmental factors like chemicals and inherited genetics.Anthonyhehasnonamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15726317437558487930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-35939602568043124382016-09-30T11:12:20.077-04:002016-09-30T11:12:20.077-04:00Anthony --
Yeah, I'm familiar with Lysenkoism....Anthony --<br />Yeah, I'm familiar with Lysenkoism. What the liberals believe today isn't all that far removed from it: that most human differences are caused by the environment, and that genetics have little to do with, say, differences in intelligence. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-62904507936371198932016-09-30T11:06:25.795-04:002016-09-30T11:06:25.795-04:00https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
This is ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism<br /><br />This is what the soviets believed for some time. A sort of stupid opposite of Nazi science.Anthonyhehasnonamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15726317437558487930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-39294946338694674212016-09-30T11:04:01.484-04:002016-09-30T11:04:01.484-04:00I am surprised Asperger didn't do any further ...I am surprised Asperger didn't do any further research, they just disposed of the patients and pickled their brains, they left it as that. Then again, the Nazis had a extremist view of genetics where they believed just killing off undesirables ended all traces without regard for environmental factors, epigenetics, or mutations.<br /><br />Lemme share another interesting fact on the flipside. The Soviets, they had the opposite extremist view of the Nazis, they rejected traditional evolution, natural selection, and Darwinian genetics. They believed everything was nurture. <br /><br />If your children had deformities, it was because you were lazy or didn't live right. If someone was unintelligent, they obviously chose to be that way early in life and didn't do enough studying. Plant offspring could be made better by simply giving more light and treatment etc. It is partially responsible for all the famines they had.Anthonyhehasnonamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15726317437558487930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-52538264438434108712016-09-30T10:38:46.361-04:002016-09-30T10:38:46.361-04:00Anthony --
My understanding is, it's just mild...Anthony --<br />My understanding is, it's just mild autism. What the organic difference is between it and more severe autism, I have no idea. <br /><br />Whether or not someone was a saint ought to have little bearing on whether he is credited as the discoverer of a syndrome. Whether or not he was first to discover it ought to. But history is replete with people getting or not getting credit for being first, undeservedly. Alfred Russel Wallace is said to have been the first to postulate a comprehensive theory of natural selection, but no one ever talks about "Wallacian evolution."John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-56724563527956692972016-09-30T10:30:08.920-04:002016-09-30T10:30:08.920-04:00Is Asperger Syndrome anything but mild autism? The...Is Asperger Syndrome anything but mild autism? The DSM reclassified it as being level 1 autism, level 3 being the most severe. No need for it's own unique term. The other reason they removed it was that there are multiple causes and types of autism and no evidence asperger syndrome comprised a truly specific type, not enough genes in common.<br /><br />Hans Asperger wasn't a saint, he had some of his patients "sent for relocation" even after action T4 was stopped. The other guy, Leo Kanner, who is often demonized and discovered autism first, isn't as bad as they keep saying. <br /><br />Maybe the other reason to remove Asperger's name is he wasn't truly the first to discover it. Plus "Kanner" sounds better to me, sounds easier to say, more English sounding, a real doctor's name. Asperger sounds like a rural Austrian village.Anthonyhehasnonamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15726317437558487930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-31946600614323054222016-09-30T08:57:07.843-04:002016-09-30T08:57:07.843-04:00Anthony --
Hans Asperger was a Nazi sympathizer?? ...Anthony --<br />Hans Asperger was a Nazi sympathizer?? No wonder his diagnosis has been removed from the DSM.<br /><br />Hitler believed in gravity; we should stop recognizing it as a legitimate concept.John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-26757396522291238862016-09-30T08:43:48.613-04:002016-09-30T08:43:48.613-04:00Oh my mistake,
Annoying personality quirks though...Oh my mistake, <br />Annoying personality quirks though do come from not thinking enough before acting. <br />The term Aspergers I hear was removed from the American psychiatry manual since they say it's just a milder form of autism, no separate name needed. <br />(And Hans Asperger was a nazi sympathizer too)<br /><br />This video sent a surge of horror through me, it made me realize a few severely autistic people are possibly consciously aware of what's going on every second! Yikes! It would be comforting to think that every single one of them would be too retarded to be miserable, or very angry inside like the guy in the video. It's like "I have no mouth and I must scream". <br /><br />Mother nature is a huge bitch.Anthonyhehasnonamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15726317437558487930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-78889673049708466082016-09-30T08:07:53.164-04:002016-09-30T08:07:53.164-04:00Anthony --
Yes, he writes well. But he has full bl...Anthony --<br />Yes, he writes well. But he has full blown autism, not just Aspergers, which is what i've been taking about on this blog. <br /><br />Also, I don't think I ever used the word "half-witted." They just have annoying personality quirks. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.com