tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post5216974319126842866..comments2024-02-17T04:06:00.805-05:00Comments on Just Not Said: Colin Kaepernick, out-brothering the brothersJohn Craighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-42465581960218322232016-10-01T21:26:44.564-04:002016-10-01T21:26:44.564-04:00Gambino --
Yes, and there are only half a million ...Gambino --<br />Yes, and there are only half a million Australian aborigines, very few compared to blacks of West African descent. <br /><br />I have to admit, I was surprised by their participation rates in Australian football. I'd never thought of them as being that athletic. Hadn't known they are that strong for their size, and agile and quick. Cathy Freeman won a gold medal 12 years ago, and Evonne Goolagong was a successful tennis player 40 or so years ago, but you don't see much of them in international sports. <br /><br />Yes, black Americans are descended from West Africans. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-80349383847897670652016-10-01T21:12:58.777-04:002016-10-01T21:12:58.777-04:00It's an interesting situation. To correct my ...It's an interesting situation. To correct my previous post, the Indigenous population is 2.4% of the total population. This actually makes their representation in pro-football more pronounced. Indigenous is the catch-all term to cover all the 'native' population. Up until recently the term has been 'Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders' (ATSI), so 'Indigenous' is just cleaner to say.<br /><br />You are right that in practical sense, the demographics, culture, the location of Indigenous population, access to weapons, etc., the implications for law and order issues are dramatically less. There are very few, 'ghettos' (in Sydney there is one, but it is tame compared to the US), the Indigenous population being native to the land is spread far and wide and located mainly in regional areas where there is low population density regardless. <br /><br />You are also correct th that they are not exactly known for being bright. Physically, they don't get as big and strong as Black Americans (who I think the majority descend from West Africa, as per most Olympic sprinters?), but are very strong (wiry) and have amazing agility and turn of direction, peripheral vision and burst speed. Whereas in American sports, Black Americans are a mainstay, they are more the 'spice' of game, adding plays that whites generally aren't capable of. Physically their faces are interesting in that they have a very broad, flat nose (most men find Indigenous women very unappealing). They suffer from poor life expectancy and are particularly disposed to diabetes and consequential chronic illnesseAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14159129538718150897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-58964130701036960462016-10-01T05:17:56.042-04:002016-10-01T05:17:56.042-04:00Gambino Dellacroce --
I find the Australian racial...Gambino Dellacroce --<br />I find the Australian racial situation fascinating because it's like the American one, but, in some ways, more so. At 3.3% of the population, the aborigines (is that now considered a pejorative term?) aren't going to cause that many problems, or make big cities unlivable, and, for the most part, they don't even live in big cities. But, the racial differences are even starker. They reportedly have an average IQ in the high 60's, and whenever I see a forensic artist's recreation of Homo erectus, they tend to look like Australian aborigines John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-53465443601220637292016-10-01T04:46:00.170-04:002016-10-01T04:46:00.170-04:00An Australian perspective on this which has arisen...An Australian perspective on this which has arisen overnight. The two big football codes in Australia (Australian Rules Football and Rugby League) have their Finals this weekend (equivalent of the Super Bowl). An Indigenous Boxer, Anthony Mundine (who was a pro footballer) called for indigenous players to boycott the national anthem before the games (Mundine is known for being an attention seeking moron with delusions of grandeur over his boxing prowess).<br /><br />http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/anthony-mundines-anthem-call-blasted-by-malcolm-turnbull/news-story/e4e5a572fcf08de220361f7dd904b148<br /><br />Thankfully, Australia's biggest football star, an Indigenous man, Lance Franklin, called it "stupid" and said he would do no such thing.<br /><br />As a bit of context, Indigenous Australians are approximately 3.3% of the Australian population, but approximately 11% of the pro-football ranks.<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14159129538718150897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-91386089353285452332016-09-19T21:18:21.121-04:002016-09-19T21:18:21.121-04:00Arthur --
I could certainly be accused of that. I&...Arthur --<br />I could certainly be accused of that. I'm half Asian, half white, and when people ask I always say that I'm culturally white, but psychologically, at least as much Asian as white. But I think one of the reasons I'm so interested in race and racial differences is simply because it's such a taboo subject; if it weren't taboo, I honestly think I wouldn't find it so fascinating. Anyway, as far as me leaning one way, I am guilty of leaning white. But that said, whenever anyone asks, I also say that Asians are to whites as whites are to blacks. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-28151354115910034452016-09-19T21:10:52.846-04:002016-09-19T21:10:52.846-04:00From what I have observed, it seems mixed race peo...From what I have observed, it seems mixed race people lean hard to one side or the other. They either look down on one part of themselves or go overboard embracing it. ArthurinCalihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00622940917697143070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-11972168372053147132016-09-05T05:14:42.698-04:002016-09-05T05:14:42.698-04:00Douglas H --
That really rings true, and the fact ...Douglas H --<br />That really rings true, and the fact that our friend went to Stanford and works for a corporation doubles his need not to be viewed as a sellout. I bet he's more comfortable in the company of whites, with whom he has nothing to prove, than he is with other blacks, with whom he does. <br /><br />People don't realize the extent to which this dynamic affects Barack Obama. He was brought up exclusively by whites, knew no blacks in Indonesia, and very few at Punahou. He's half white, went to Columbia and Harvard Law, and is gay to boot. Plus his black ancestry is from east Africa, not west Africa, which is the area most African-Americans are descended from. So he has to try doubly hard to come across like a down home brother at times. Look at the way his black accent thickens when he addresses a black audience; it's every bit as phony as Hillary Clinton putting on a black accent that time she visited a black church in '08. The only difference is that Obama looks the part somewhat, so to speak. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-5088662545765992602016-09-05T02:52:15.273-04:002016-09-05T02:52:15.273-04:00I have a friend who is very accomplished and educa...I have a friend who is very accomplished and educated (Stanford) and is African American as well. We would associate occasionally and eat together in the company cafeteria with others, mostly Asians and Whites. There is one consistent behavior that stands out when another African American sees and approached while we are all hanging out. His personality changes as if he is looking for their acceptance, as if he is trying to explain himself for associating with white guys. It doesn't matter what professional these people have, he seems to have a need for their acceptance. I always felt he did not want to be viewed as a sellout. <br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13642124287316657442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-61901844196059952472016-09-04T05:33:10.614-04:002016-09-04T05:33:10.614-04:00Ambrose --
Thank you very much. I'll take anot...Ambrose --<br />Thank you very much. I'll take another look at the comments. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-56881677652535077782016-09-04T00:45:13.569-04:002016-09-04T00:45:13.569-04:00Great article as usual, John, because it's the...Great article as usual, John, because it's the truth! As I'm sure you're aware, it was featured on the American Renaissance website, and it was received quite well in the comments. Ambrose Kanehttp://www.ambrosekane.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-76511491408290666462016-09-03T17:49:24.108-04:002016-09-03T17:49:24.108-04:00Bob --
Well, I'm the result of miscegenation. ...Bob --<br />Well, I'm the result of miscegenation. (And my son says I'm walking, talking anti-miscegenation poster.)<br /><br />But it's easier for me, because if you're a Eurasian, you're a Eurasian, period. You don't have to choose one or the other, you just are what you are. Light-skinned blacks are viewed as black (and thus possibly dangerous) by whites, but also sometimes with slight suspicion by other blacks, who suspect that they might put on airs. <br /><br />John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-48895884838141841732016-09-03T17:42:19.249-04:002016-09-03T17:42:19.249-04:00Mos --
I've known plenty of blacks. And as far...Mos --<br />I've known plenty of blacks. And as far as them getting rid of the color caste system, why is it that successful black men who marry black almost always marry a light-skinned woman? If you don't believe that, take a look at this post:<br /><br />http://justnotsaid.blogspot.com/2014/08/what-kind-of-women-do-black-men-prefer.html<br /><br />I'm actually more sympathetic to Kaepernick than most; I see what's driving him, how his background has affected him, and how difficult it is for him. <br /><br />And before you call me a bigot, read this first: <br /><br />http://justnotsaid.blogspot.com/2014/10/why-i-feel-free-to-be-honest-about-race.html<br /><br />(And how do your attitudes compare with the guy I describe in that post?)<br /><br /> John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-37899466823915610482016-09-03T17:20:17.541-04:002016-09-03T17:20:17.541-04:00There is a good reason miscegenation was illegal. ...There is a good reason miscegenation was illegal. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-4717615774353676132016-09-03T17:16:16.318-04:002016-09-03T17:16:16.318-04:00Lol what is this nonsense? Stop projecting ur inse...Lol what is this nonsense? Stop projecting ur insecurities and bigotry onto Kap. What u describe is urignorant feelings not his. Would you want a white robber or criminal in ur neighborhood? No! So why would I want a black one in my black country club neighborhood of woodmore, Md. Its embarrassing obvious You clearly do not know any blacks (light or dark) and <br />So u should not speak on groups you have zero interactions with. Unlike other backwards non advancing cultures black Americans got rid of the color caste system in the 50's.moshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10611698763437865437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-59956058726762261262016-09-01T20:55:56.339-04:002016-09-01T20:55:56.339-04:00yeah I can buy that.yeah I can buy that.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15276736643046430370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-90972456789589738832016-09-01T20:25:17.764-04:002016-09-01T20:25:17.764-04:00Steven --
That puts it pretty pithily.
I don'...Steven --<br />That puts it pretty pithily. <br /><br />I don't mean to underplay the stupidity of Kaepernick's position here or the dishonesty of the BLM movement. But what I think is interesting about this particular case is the psychological dynamic behind Kaepernick trying to desperately to prove he's black. And most whites don't see this, they don't realize that's what's going on with him. They just see another black full of aggrievement based on false statistics. But what's going on here is way more complicated than that, and it's also reflective of a common dynamic in that community, the light-skinned black trying to prove he's a down home brother. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-72189436138462238312016-09-01T20:16:36.028-04:002016-09-01T20:16:36.028-04:00The first time I heard about Kaepernick was readin...The first time I heard about Kaepernick was reading Gavin Mcinnis' twitter. He tweeted @Kaepernick7<br /><br />'you were abandoned by your black father and raised by a white one who volunteered. Shut the fuck up abut this fake oppression'.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15276736643046430370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-78007360722986639072016-09-01T19:41:34.097-04:002016-09-01T19:41:34.097-04:00Anon --
I knew a guy in high school, also half-bla...Anon --<br />I knew a guy in high school, also half-black and half-white, who had been adopted by well-meaning white parents, and he was pretty screwed up too. Had to try very, very hard to "prove" he was black. He too had an accept which was less a black accent than an attempt at one, and he did all sorts of dangerous things to show he was a real brother, like carry a gun around (in high school!). <br /><br />I've never heard of a white child who was adopted by blacks, but I suppose that would be an interesting experiment too. My guess is that that child, rather than feeling he had to "prove" that he was white, would act as black as possible. It all boils down to which side is considered good, and which bad. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-66757816624560839712016-09-01T19:29:04.321-04:002016-09-01T19:29:04.321-04:00This whole situation is great, intersectionality a...This whole situation is great, intersectionality at every turn. <br /><br />My take is that Kaepernick's underlying motivation has a bit more to do with being abandoned by his black father, but this could be wrong. At any rate, any white family foolish enough to be considering joining the craze of adopting a black child should take along look at how Colin is repaying his adoptive parents. <br /><br />"The next time you see a Kaepernick-type in action, understand that what you're seeing is not necessarily hatred of whites; a lot of it may just be posturing."<br /><br />Why whites should put up with the bullshit attitudes of blacks at all is a boring question. When we decide to stop I suspect it'll take them (and their enablers) by surprise. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-62199455383424416452016-09-01T18:01:21.018-04:002016-09-01T18:01:21.018-04:00Mark --
That's an amusing story, although I ca...Mark --<br />That's an amusing story, although I can see how Jabbar would make that mistake. (I wouldn't have known precisely what Jefferson was specifically referring to with that quote either, though I doubt I would have tried to twist it around to justify my particular political position.) <br /><br />Mark, too bad you're not seven feet tall and didn't spend 20 years in the NBA, people would be flocking to listen to your opinions too....which brings me back to Kaepernick. Why in the world are people taking the political opinions of dumb 28-year-old athlete seriously? Kaepernick sat down with a thump heard round the world. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-61240206821099520782016-09-01T17:33:26.454-04:002016-09-01T17:33:26.454-04:00Abdul-Jabbar does come off as a decent human being...Abdul-Jabbar does come off as a decent human being. As a self-styled black intellectual, though, he needs an educational upgrade. He introduced Khzir Kahn at the Democratic National Convention. In doing so, he badly misconstrued a famous quote of Thomas Jefferson's. Abdul-Jabbar said the first place the Kahn family visited in the United States upon immigrating here was the Jefferson Memorial. "The words engraved there read: 'I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.' Donald Trump's idea to register Muslims and prevent them from entering our country is the very tyranny Jefferson abhorred."<br /><br />The <i>tyranny over the mind of man</i> that Jefferson swore eternal hostility to was revealed religion, which Jefferson believed to be a lot of nonsense. Jefferson wasn't an atheist, but he thought the Bible and Qu'ran were works of fiction. Jefferson would likely have applauded the idea of barring people who took sacred texts literally from entering the country, which would include most Muslims.Mark Caplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157338755022593966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-76684458849767030562016-09-01T14:51:15.779-04:002016-09-01T14:51:15.779-04:00Mark --
I've always thought the tendency of Am...Mark --<br />I've always thought the tendency of American blacks to claim islam as their own native religion a little silly; the only contact sub-Saharan blacks had with Arabs was when the Arabs would come down to round them up as slaves. <br /><br />That said, I've actually been surprised by how balanced some of the recent articles by Jabbar have been. Not saying I agree with them, but I read one or two that actually managed to present both sides of the story, which was entirely unexpected. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-29218502135661228852016-09-01T14:45:39.355-04:002016-09-01T14:45:39.355-04:00Towering (light-skinned) black intellectual Kareem...Towering (light-skinned) black intellectual Kareem Abdul Jabbar proved his blackness by changing his religion. He was raised Catholic, but when he learned that the Church way back when hadn't opposed slavery, he converted to -- get this -- Islam!Mark Caplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157338755022593966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-736096222468186602016-09-01T12:54:45.116-04:002016-09-01T12:54:45.116-04:00Allan --
Thank you, yes, those are good examples. ...Allan --<br />Thank you, yes, those are good examples. I had forgotten how light-skinned Elijah Muhammad was. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-30775411275404256682016-09-01T12:11:42.927-04:002016-09-01T12:11:42.927-04:00Johnny Spain, a former Black Panther, pointed out ...Johnny Spain, a former Black Panther, pointed out that many of the original members were light complexioned. Malcolm X's skin was nearly white and freckled not to mention his hair was reddish. Elijah Muhammad of the first Nation of Islam was light complexioned as well. Andrew Young is another example. I think you've hit on something.Quartermainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04299225027446970818noreply@blogger.com