tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post5762484803103484487..comments2024-02-17T04:06:00.805-05:00Comments on Just Not Said: Another male nurse serial killerJohn Craighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-88938018487258586062020-04-17T21:07:21.381-04:002020-04-17T21:07:21.381-04:00Gethin --
True, but just don't feel too comfor...Gethin --<br />True, but just don't feel too comfortable if you get a male nurse. They're something like 11% of nurses, but over 50% of nurse serial killers. Other than that, I'ad agree that nursing doesn't attract sociopaths, for the most part. I've never once met a nurse I've disliked (that I can recall), whereas I seem to have met a fair number of doctors I've disliked. <br /><br />My understanding is that serial killers find what they do addictive, so with a lot of them, it's not a question of making an informed, dispassionate decision about what they can get away with. It's more of a compulsion that feeds on itself. Nurse serial killers, from what I've seen, are far more prolific than most serial killers, just because they have so much opportunity, and are usually not suspected for a while. Some of them -- like Daniela Poggiali -- have worked on geriatric wards, where the patients are almost expected to die, so a high rate of deaths wouldn't necessarily attract a lot of suspicion. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-51169100149764971292020-04-17T20:37:25.389-04:002020-04-17T20:37:25.389-04:00I was thinking about the Högel case today. Two poi...I was thinking about the Högel case today. Two points:<br /><br />1. I partly blame his colleagues. Not for being knowingly complicit, but for not suspecting him sooner. Reportedly, 50% of the entire hospital's deaths were happening on this one ward, whilst Högel was on duty. In fact, his colleagues did notice, because they labelled him the "Pechbringer" (bringer of bad luck). Maybe they did believe that it was just bad luck, though. Maybe they didn't want to believe something so awful. Still, if only someone had suspected him sooner...<br /><br />2. This guy did it ~100 times, which is why he was eventually caught. How many nurses have killed patients just once or twice? Högel was clearly a sociopath and - by the looks of him - probably not that intelligent. A more intelligent sociopath would know to do it just a few times, in patients that probably would've died anyway. That way, they still would've got their sick buzz out of having killed someone without being caught. Makes me wonder how many times this has actually happened. Scary thought. <br /><br />Then again, thankfully there aren't that many sociopathic nurses. Nursing pays badly and is an unglamorous job. Nurses have little power over patients, and are effectively there to wash them and measure vital signs. A study once showed that, out of all careers, nurses - alongside teachers - have the fewest amount of sociopaths amongst them (bankers, politicians and police officers had the highest amount. Which makes sense, as sociopaths seek glamour and power. How many of them want to deal with bedpans full of other people's faeces?). A comforting thought, should you need to go into hospital.<br /><br />- GethinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-20356611389892882702017-08-30T05:39:44.626-04:002017-08-30T05:39:44.626-04:00Rona --
It is a staggering number of murders, thou...Rona --<br />It is a staggering number of murders, though it was evidently spread over two hospitals, and I'd guess that Hoegel, like a lot of these nurse serial killers, liked working with geriatric patients because doing so allowed him to ply his trade more unnoticed, as geriatrics are expected to die more frequently anyway. <br /><br />And yes, it must be exciting. <br /><br />I hadn't seen that article about the Antifa protesters; that's interesting, but not surprising. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-77876501321597806902017-08-30T03:46:19.239-04:002017-08-30T03:46:19.239-04:00That number of murders is staggering. When I see w...That number of murders is staggering. When I see what kind of damage one individual can inflict of society I'm sometimes surprised things are not worse. Hopefully hospital administrators will be sentenced as well. It's impossible to not notice a surge in deaths involving a single nurse. What doesn't make sense is, even if the hospital was only concerned with avoiding scandal and lawsuits, it would have made more sense to fire him, than pretend nothing odd is happening. <br /><br />What he does is sort of like gambling, bringing a man to a brink of death and then attempting resuscitation uncertain of the outcome. Must be more exciting gambling with human life than any amount of money.<br /><br />Yes, his physiognomy is unsurprising. I'm not sure if you covered it, but there was an article about Antifa protesters in Germany. Mostly unemployed and over 90% live with parents.<br /><br /><br />Ronanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-2028300650140475572017-08-29T13:53:23.800-04:002017-08-29T13:53:23.800-04:00Not Dave --
That's exactly right: sociopaths a...Not Dave --<br />That's exactly right: sociopaths are skilled at hiding in plain sight. And often, they're hard to spot, even if you know what to look for, if you only get a small snapshot of them. You have to watch them over time to really know what they're about, and it's only their coworkers who get that view. And they often like to have jobs which make them appear none, or heroic, which can make it even more difficult. <br /><br />And even for coworkers, if they're not familiar with the signs, and most people aren't, they're all too willing to give the sociopath the benefit of the doubt, something else sociopaths bank on.<br /><br />I agree about nurses in general, I'd say well over 90% of those I've met have been great. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-32299483283375691132017-08-29T12:38:14.616-04:002017-08-29T12:38:14.616-04:00Until you mentioned firefighters I was thinking ju...Until you mentioned firefighters I was thinking just that. Having grown up in southern California it's a phenomenon I'm more familiar with. <br /><br />My niece suffered a brain aneurysm last May and was treated at the local children's hospital (they saved her life). I was able to visit her that first week and see the awesome staff working 24/7 to keep her stable and alive while she was in a coma following brain surgery. Thankfully that's the more common occurrence in every hospital. My niece went home in early July just 2 months after her incident. She started the 6th grade yesterday. <br /><br />Sociopths are hidden everywhere but if you recognize the signs they're relatively easy to spot. Problem is very few people acknowledge sociopathy at all and don't recognize the warning signs. How could a nurse, fireman, etc, be a bad person? Not Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09046022186861894019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-78279086110690680382017-08-29T11:40:49.970-04:002017-08-29T11:40:49.970-04:00GT --
Wow, I hadn't even heard of Genene Jones...GT --<br />Wow, I hadn't even heard of Genene Jones before. Yes, the hospital in that case should have been more liable given that they were interested in nothing more than covering their own behinds. <br /><br />I think most hospitals are not that bad, but you're right, their own self-interest is always going to loom large in their decisions. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-6016222230527554462017-08-29T11:23:10.182-04:002017-08-29T11:23:10.182-04:00I have a hard time not blaming the hospital admini...I have a hard time not blaming the hospital administrators in cases that go on for so long. The Administrators are more worried about the reputation of their institution and mitigating lawsuits than doing the right thing. In my mind they are more concerned with just making everything "go away" with the least amount of exposer. <br /><br />The Genene Jones case is a prime example of administrators allowing a person to resign or be forced out on a minor infraction versus doing to right thing and bringing in some sort of official medical review board or even the police to research the high level of cardiac arrests/ deaths. <br /> GThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03967715560960698018noreply@blogger.com