tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post6158309531075397619..comments2024-02-17T04:06:00.805-05:00Comments on Just Not Said: Do Aspies span the full range of morality?John Craighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comBlogger150125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-84493727116476516372017-11-17T22:56:18.260-05:002017-11-17T22:56:18.260-05:00Maybe I overestimated just how well off an average...Maybe I overestimated just how well off an average person is inside, and if 30% of people are narcissists, then saying "most people" as in >90% of everyone are alright is incorrect.<br /><br />I just looked at that comment by Jennifer, if she was in a relationship for a long time, then it's understandable why feels very strongly. If she only experienced them like you did, I would expect the feelings to be more like your. I don't get where all these weird ideas are coming from. And why they try to make it sound much more sinister than it is when you are really just dealing with a mentally disorder person who of course will make things hell. But trying to make us sound more competent? Why are we now said to be great at manipulation? Do autists try to manipulate? Maybe, but we (or I would) suck at it, if you know you are trying to be manipulated immediately, then the person sucks at it. A lot are lower functioning and have trouble even supporting themselves or doing basic tasks like I am. I guess I am making it about me, but why get lumped in with the higher end minority who can blend into society and cause damage?<br /><br />Likewise I don't get the non-autistic support for neurodiversity. Of course a bunch of people will create a movement if they nothing is wrong, but it only survives because of acceptance by society, and most people in society are not autistic. The guy who who wrote the book "neurotribes" is not autistic, Baron-Cohen is not (maybe the former 2 are just in it for the money). Sometimes calling saying "narcissistic" seems too much like a compliment since it implies being they even care about themselves at all, when it's really more pathetic, closer to a cult that worships the condition. If an autistic child gets raped by a predator nobody blinks an eye, nobody speaks up on the injustice. They get angrier at your relatively mild posts. Which is why I corrected you that one time about why those autistic people were upset with your posts, not because they felt their own egos were injured as individuals, they were angry about autism getting a bad name, their precious idol.<br /><br />About sociopathy, I disagree on how I estimate it. Anyone who is sorta anti-social, I'd raise it to 10%. I used to have boss who bullied all new workers, she had an in group, and you would have to learn to side with her to avoid her mind games (she was good at it, the other's didn't know they were being manipulated, I only found out after one guy, a really good people reader told me what she was doing, she even fooled her superiors), but she isn't free from inner turmoil. She has a tough life, she also had moments where you could see some shame she represses, and she wasn't always that way from what I heard, she used to be a decent person but got more like she as her personal life became worse (this was too late for it to be childhood abuse).<br /><br />So I would place her in this broad category of mild anti-socials. And I think they could make up 10% of the population. If 3-4% of people are classic sociopaths, I would guess most of them are not completely organic, the kind abused as a kid would still have some shred of fear or anxiety (like Stalin, abused by an alcoholic father, classic sociopath, but he suffered from fear and anxiety, he hid under his desk after the invasion by Hitler for days curled up and was deathly afraid of being assassinated, doesn't sound like Hermann Goering who didn't feel scared even as he was about to be hanged), if we limit it to just a certain type, they could have had amazing childhoods but love hurting others for fun and torturing animals as a hobby whatever I would say only 1% which is where I disagree with you on the numbers. Or maybe we are just arguing over different definitions.<br />-GaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-64984495159643335282017-11-16T20:55:52.003-05:002017-11-16T20:55:52.003-05:00Ga --
"Normal" people, at least those wh...Ga --<br />"Normal" people, at least those who don't have an identifiable syndrome, don't have to necessarily make wholesale changes to their personalities. But everybody has to adapt to something from time to time, and everybody makes mistakes occasionally, so should be able to own up to those. But a lot of people don't seem to be able to. (BTW, here's an old joke: Q: What's the definition of a normal family? A: One you don't know well.)<br /><br />I think there are a lot fewer "plain natured healthy minded kind of people" than you imagine. <br /><br />Dictionary definition of dichotomy from Google: "a division or contrast between two things that are or are represented as being opposed or entirely different." I was using it to refer to what you had mentioned, the division between people who think they should change and improve themselves, and those who don't. <br /><br />Yes, people whom psychiatrists would identify as having narcissistic personality disorder are relatively few, but I generally use the term in the broader sense, referring to the 30% or so who have a hard time admitting fault. There's no way sociopaths are 10% of the population, btw; and that's a much more narrowly defined term. I generally use 3 to 4% as the right number there. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-72540698157028978962017-11-16T20:14:36.163-05:002017-11-16T20:14:36.163-05:00I don't know if it applies to all people. It&#...I don't know if it applies to all people. It's been my belief that most people in the world who have no organic condition, personality defect, or any aquired behavioural problems (aquired narcissism from fame or pampering) don't have to be open to change, be flexible, or adapt since they are fine just the way they are. They can breeze by without thinking of how they act since they have nothing wrong, so some of them are naturally flexible or open to change, some are not, but neither has never needed to use the ability almost at all.<br />And I envy them for that.<br /><br />If by "all people" though, you mean everyone not just the regular plain natured healthy minded kind of people I'm thinking about who make up most of the world (or do they? are most people really that well as I imagine?), well then maybe I can agree with your point. <br /><br />I have some trouble with vocabulary, by "dichotomy" what kind did I make? I maybe made one but can you condense it back for me in a few plain words if you want to? A dichotomy is a two sided point thing? Yeah it is confusing for me.<br /><br />Narcissism can be a broad way to describe people, in some sense it can mean only a small amount of people in the world, but taken to wider definition you may be talked about as many as 1/4th of the people in this world to some degree or another. I guess with sociopathy, it can be as little as 1% but if you include anyone with any noticeable degree of messed up anti-social behavior in their life for whatever reason, even learned, you could be talking about 1 in 10 people.<br /><br />-GaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-86743989455975767562017-11-16T04:34:31.978-05:002017-11-16T04:34:31.978-05:00Ga --
Excellent analogy with diabetics.
I think ...Ga --<br />Excellent analogy with diabetics. <br /><br />I think the basic dichotomy you describe applies to all people, not just Aspies. Narcissists think they're perfect, and see no need to change. People who look at themselves more realistically are generally more flexible and willing to adapt as need be. It all seems to boil down to narcissism. <br /><br />I've always thought that most Aspies, while not narcissistic, do have something striking in common with narcissists, and that's an inability to admit it when they're wrong about something. And that generally extends to an unwillingness to change. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-16838645277079017912017-11-16T03:41:47.741-05:002017-11-16T03:41:47.741-05:00I think I will share with you something I've t...I think I will share with you something I've thought..<br /><br />Why are some autists more reasonable, insighful, self aware, and better behaved than others?<br /><br />Because some people are naturally able to reason, use insight, or observe, think in a metacognitive way about thinks while other don't.<br /><br />I know some regular people who are not particularly deep or self aware, and some who are.<br />Just like Autists.<br /><br />But there is a difference! Autists who are not self aware are not the same as regular people who are not self aware.<br /><br />Regular people can afford not to be because what is naturally palatable behaviour comes to them more easily since it is not impeded by the existence of a condition that causes impulses to behave or act in a way that is not good. I know some regular plain people without much depth, and they are nice people, the are friendly, easygoing since their nature to be so is no distorted by an outside factor, can't discuss much with them except the weather. Just average all around. <br /><br />If you took some people, gave them Autism, they would wake up like asses. If you took others, they would quickly realize what is going on and try to work on it. An example is a social filter, autists can be rude because they lack one. They may pass an ugly person and blurt out "that person is ugly" (I admit, I dislike it when people criticize autists for being rude but imply its because they had the thought in the first place, not that they couldn't avoid blurting it out. Everyone has intrusive thoughts, ironically this fixation for being oh so moral and hypocrisy is similar to the kind of autists) but a regular person has a natural instinct to not blurt it out, they don't even have to think about it, they instinctively won't, what is reasonable looking behaviour just is embedded but with the instinct gone, what is left would be awareness/insight and not everyone has the same.<br /><br />I feel some people take for granted they don't have any one of several possible organic conditions that affects the way they interact with others, and this is referring even to individual actions sometimes. Like a person who can afford to not watch what they eat because they aren't diabetic. This is why I get irritated when people try to celebrate my condition or say it's a good thing (like neurodiversity), I make an effort to control it and they say I should embrace it! Tell a diabetic their condition is a good thing and they should eat whatever they want, and it sounds similar!<br /><br />So autists do span the full range of morality, and intelligence, and insightfulness, and decency, and self awareness. But they cannot afford to be on many parts of any of these ranges without consequences to other people and sometimes themselves, while a regular person has more freedom to fall in areas without bad results.<br /><br />That doesn't mean we should excuse behaviour though if it can be changed or worked on, you gotta keep trying if you are a professional to get the best result. But....if you look at it without a moral component, maybe its easier to not feel so prejudiced against autists for the way they act if you realize the above. The problem is people DELIBERATELY let...no.... directly define themselves with it and spread this idea virus which pisses me off to no end.<br /><br />I don't know, I think everything could be working out sorta better in some other scenario for all this.<br /><br />-Ga<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-68608128338951165772017-04-11T00:05:44.613-04:002017-04-11T00:05:44.613-04:00Jennifer --
I find Aspies incredibly annoying, but...Jennifer --<br />I find Aspies incredibly annoying, but to tell the truth, in my experience they haven't been condescending or cruel as a rule. They CAN be, but half the time they end up being that way just by accident. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-8969677600303119462017-04-10T16:29:57.066-04:002017-04-10T16:29:57.066-04:00The other thing i forgot to mention is their lies ...The other thing i forgot to mention is their lies and manipulation. The biggest con they will tell you is they are incapable of lying,that is total BS!!! They will maliciously slander you when they don't get their way. I loathe them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-24778244288056964082017-04-10T16:27:06.304-04:002017-04-10T16:27:06.304-04:00John, thank you for bringing this to light. I have...John, thank you for bringing this to light. I have worked with and known several Aspies, and without exception , they were annoying, judgmental, condescending, cruel comments etc.. They REFUSE to admit they are wrong and are also VERY vengeful. You need to look into Aspies and revenge.jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17967345656523492005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-86798875303538652782017-03-22T14:40:58.738-04:002017-03-22T14:40:58.738-04:00My theory is the main symptom of autism is a set o...My theory is the main symptom of autism is a set of unique executive dysfunctions and weak central coherence, but those two may be connected directly or be two symptoms caused by the same root problem (which I am unsure of what it is). <br /><br />The rest such as the depersonalization, meltdowns, social deficits, anxiety, and obsessive behaviors are from a domino effect, they are side effects. <br /><br />An0nimousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-64818400283908159032017-03-22T13:18:06.562-04:002017-03-22T13:18:06.562-04:00An0nimous --
Yes, crucial difference between egoce...An0nimous --<br />Yes, crucial difference between egocentric and egotistical. None of the Aspies I've known well struck me as particularly egotistical, but all were extremely egocentric. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-56930872389269120102017-03-22T13:06:26.271-04:002017-03-22T13:06:26.271-04:00The difference between a narcissist and aspie in t...The difference between a narcissist and aspie in their narcissistic behavior is one is from a personality difference, the other is not. It is common to say an aspie lacks the ability to see other people's points of view, as if seeing another persons point of view is a single process rather than a combination of many processes derived from available mental tools humans have. (Like language, there is no little organ evolved solely to make every single word we say for us, the parts of the brain for language originally evolved for other purposes, we then invented language long ago using what was available to us and our ability to make sounds with our throats and lips)<br /><br />(this is just my theory) It is more accurate to say their potential for that ability is hamstrung or fettered by cognitive dysfunctions and other symptoms that are present such as literal mindedness, difficulty processing information, difficulty predicting, difficulty carrying one situation over to the next, poor flexibility, depersonalization, poor working memory, obsessiveness, difficulty paying attention, and constant heightened levels of anxiety adding to it. It is arguably a side effect of what autism is (whatever it is), it is not what causes autism, it is caused BY autism. A similar case can be made for the deficits, delusions, and paranoia in schizophrenia leading to a similar result. Fortunately sometimes they are too unmotivated and lazy to share their thoughts or ideas with other, so it is much less annoying than with an aspie. They both are egocentric, but not truly egotistical or narcissists.<br /><br />An0nimous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-32831492869318547202016-07-18T08:46:40.545-04:002016-07-18T08:46:40.545-04:00Nick --
Thank you very much for your kind words. I...Nick --<br />Thank you very much for your kind words. I just try to be honest on this blog. <br /><br />Good luck in Guam; better there than the Mideast. And Happy Fourth to you. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-9232528889480285272016-07-18T05:45:03.825-04:002016-07-18T05:45:03.825-04:00Hey man its me again, Its a shocker to me but turn...Hey man its me again, Its a shocker to me but turns out I am being deployed prematurely. I am leaving this Tuesday to head for Guam.<br /><br />I just want to say first of all that My apologies for giving a false impression that I am a racist and for polluting your comment section by replying to that troll I should have just ignored him. I am not a racist I have friends from all shades of the rainbow including some muslims who don't shove islam down people's throats. My mistake was that I got emotional and took his bait. As a serviceman I am charged to have more patience and self control and to be more thick skinned.<br /><br />Also I would like to say thank you for defending me against "ahmad" to be brutally honest I thought you might just agree with him but you wen tout of your way to lay down some common sense by explaining to him that some of the aspies in your other post were reasonable and that you realize now, not all aspies are unreasonable who can't accept genuine criticism.<br /><br />and lastly I would like to commend Conrad for his brilliant analysis of us aspies he in a nutshell stated that aspies aren't the so called innocent goodies that everybody has to feel sorry for like the media portrays us we are human and we aren't good or bad he truly exposed our nature.<br /><br />Farewell John Craig, a blessing to you and your family continue advocating against leftist propaganda and spreading the truth about society I managed to get a copy of your original book and I will continue to spread your name so others can learn from what you write. I know this is wayyy over due but happy 4th of julyNicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-23810112301528757812016-07-11T17:17:41.783-04:002016-07-11T17:17:41.783-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.George Lincolnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08413382622483767869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-58615153142411863242016-07-11T17:14:51.859-04:002016-07-11T17:14:51.859-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.George Lincolnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08413382622483767869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-71046961910801683362016-07-11T17:03:34.574-04:002016-07-11T17:03:34.574-04:00Sociopaths are not the scum of the earth. Overt n...Sociopaths are not the scum of the earth. Overt narcissists are. Sociopaths can be useful such as Sherlock or having good ideas on some political solutions. Some sociopaths do do charity and stuff because that's how they believe people should behave - the people they will hate the most are the ones who don't do it when doing so will not hurt that person, such as rich elites TS if if the sociopath is not hurting himself as a result of that rich elitest - , and a few aociopaths even purposely avoid attachment to people in order to avoid hurting those people. It is also possible for a sociopath to learn some bit of empathy, or (in other sociopaths') cases to at least begin to understand how wrong it is to do what the usual sociopath does and to stop doing so except for particular people who deserve it for legitimate reasons (such as the person whoade his net friend kill himself). All sociopaths do not HAVE to manipulate; for many, it is optional. And even if they do manipulate a girl, if they never decide to end the marriage and therefore the girl never finds out, then the girl will be happy anyway. This is completely unlike an overt narcissistic, who will NEVER have ANY possibility whatsoever to learn or change anything, who will NEVER care about ANYONE in ANY way (unlike a sociopath who usually cares for a few people in some way, and who also has the sense of "do something for me then I do something for you, and do something for me often then I protect you"), and who is also violently physically abusive while also being so completely incapable of logic that you can't even shut them up or get rid of them by telling then the subject doesn't matter to you etc. A sociopath can't even stand an overt narcissistic at all but might be fine with another sociopath, as well as getting along with most people in general on the conversational level. A sociopatth also doesn't (usually) have that extreme hatred "visibly" ex using from his every pore for every minute of his entire existence like most overt narcissists do, nor do they just literally ignore EVERYTHING another person says in conversation except to use it as another excuse to scream at or physically assault them. There is no way that anyone can legitimately say that sociopaths are worse then overt narcissists.Rayvn McTiernenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00347428942988175663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-5332097236102382092016-07-11T16:25:08.631-04:002016-07-11T16:25:08.631-04:00George/Ahmad Amiri --
First, I'm guessing from...George/Ahmad Amiri --<br />First, I'm guessing from your last name that you're Pakistani -- don't know, it's just a guess. Well, I'm half-Asian too, as you'd know if you read this blog. And if you take a close look at the picture on the right side of this blog you'll see that Im somewhat brown too. So, no, the phrase about showing your "true colors" was a reference to the ugliness of your personality, not your skin color. <br /><br />Second, for you to use the word "cracker" puts you at the same level as those who use the word "Muzzie" or the n-word. You're no better than anyone who would do that. Which means you really ought not to be accusing others of being "racist." <br /><br />Third, you seem to hold all Americans responsible for everything the US has ever done. By that standard, aren't you, as a Canadian citizen -- I'm assuming your a citizen -- equally "guilty" for Canada's limited participation in the Iraq War and more extensive participation in the Afghanistan War? <br /><br />Fourth, since your primary identification seems to be Muslim, don't you feel a little hypocritical calling others homophobic? Please point out the Muslim countries where gay marriage is on the ballot. <br /><br />Fifth, you didn't really answer the question of why Muslims come to the West. Yes, their own countries are in upheaval. But there Are relatively stable Muslim countries. Why don't the displaced Muslims go to one of those? <br /><br />And sixth, you're a young man. Don't you have better things to do than come to this blog and bother me? Why aren't you out chasing girls or doing something like that? You certainly showed a strong interest in my sex life, why not work on your own? Or work on your comedy career, or something. <br /><br />John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-36834181276157039752016-07-11T12:48:38.032-04:002016-07-11T12:48:38.032-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.George Lincolnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08413382622483767869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-4060829388215082162016-07-11T12:32:50.330-04:002016-07-11T12:32:50.330-04:00George/Ahmad Amiri --
The "true colors" ...George/Ahmad Amiri --<br />The "true colors" I'm referring to, if you look at your previous comment, is that all you can do is call names and insult, using the usual left wing terms: "bigots….warmongers...xenophobic,sexist,homophobic,bigoted,racist and genocidal." <br /><br />That's exactly what people on the Left do, call names rather than make cogent arguments. In your most recent comment, you actually made a cogent argument, referring to the prevalence of American military bases and the number of bombs dropped. <br /><br />My personal preference would be for the US to withdraw entirely from the MIddle East, and let the Shiites and Sunnis fight it our among themselves. And also for us not to have any more Muslim immigrants, we don't need more people in the West demanding Sharia law. If the West is so terrible, why do so many Muslims immigrate here? Why not go to Saudi Arabia or Iran or Pakistan? <br /><br />I've wasted enough time on you, if you want to write in again, I probably won't bother to reply.<br />John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-8556511600014016862016-07-11T12:23:01.489-04:002016-07-11T12:23:01.489-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.George Lincolnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08413382622483767869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-79535922104524982012016-07-11T12:04:41.397-04:002016-07-11T12:04:41.397-04:00George/Ahmad Amiri --
Thank you for showing your ...George/Ahmad Amiri --<br /><br />Thank you for showing your true colors.John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-2613737554206088012016-07-11T11:48:16.363-04:002016-07-11T11:48:16.363-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.George Lincolnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08413382622483767869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-73824228541761479872016-07-11T11:22:08.875-04:002016-07-11T11:22:08.875-04:00Conrad --
I don't disagree with you about Aspi...Conrad --<br />I don't disagree with you about Aspies, they can't hep but be what they are. I don't try to manipulate them, my tendency is just to pacify them and avoid them. I just don't find their company enjoyable. <br /><br />Agree with you about lies, that's all we're fed by the media these days, at least on social issues. And yes, Aspies are not saints, they're just people who are wired differently. <br /><br />Disagree about sociopaths though. I write about them far more than I do about Aspies, and they're the scum of the earth. <br /><br />I'll get around to the new Aspie post, but it may take a few days (have several post in the pipeline at the moment).John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-72738056890096118792016-07-11T11:09:19.370-04:002016-07-11T11:09:19.370-04:00This is turning out to be much of a stretch even f...This is turning out to be much of a stretch even for me so this will be my lost post. although you can write me your own last response caz I wanna hear your opinion<br /><br />I don't hate or like aspies I just like to observe them from a purely scientific basis and unlike most people I really don't get bothered or infuriated by their behavior I actually find them quite intriguing they are sorta like a pet and my advise to you is that instead of just avoiding them simply play along with them ik its easier said than done but you can give it a try aspies are horrendously easy to manipulate my aspie cousin likes me because i pretend to share his weird fascinations all I have to do is convince him to practise a set of rules to follow(which would benefit me) and tell him that its just a social rule and he will obey without question but what I do hate with a passion is LIES I as a scientist have a neurotic obsession with scientific truths regardless of morality and I resent the media's spin and even the accounts of other aspies that aspies are super saints who always want to do the right thing etc... which is simply false.<br /><br />If you dig deep into the core of their nature they would make sociopaths appear a 1000 times more human. I believe sociopaths don't deserve the bad rep they are getting and I also despise how aspies get a free get out of jail card for their destructive behavior which trust me is intentional and odds are they aren't a bit sorry they are just sorry for getting caught and being condemned. Aspies are like jews they create trouble but will cry mountains of tears when they are given justice for their crimes.<br /><br />So farewell John craig I am looking forward to your new post about aspergers I am very glad that I managed to 'illuminate' you with my knowledge as a scientist.Conradnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-59066167693415254662016-07-11T10:40:36.665-04:002016-07-11T10:40:36.665-04:00Anon --
No, they have more urgent types of complai...Anon --<br />No, they have more urgent types of complaints as a rule, like they're worried that the sociopath might do physical harm to them, or their children. And that he spends their money on other women, or gambling. And that he's incredibly cruel. I can't recall one complaining about the lack of sex or emotional intimacy. <br /><br />If you're going to write in again, I suggest you use a pen name of some sort so I know it's you, I get an awful lot of comments from "Anonymous." John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.com