tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post6163885832318369335..comments2024-02-17T04:06:00.805-05:00Comments on Just Not Said: Rose McGowan, avenging Fury. John Craighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-83223364460019144772017-10-18T19:56:12.844-04:002017-10-18T19:56:12.844-04:00Shaun --
Yes, especially after waiting two decades...Shaun --<br />Yes, especially after waiting two decades to do so, and having worked with Weinstein in the interim.John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-69925460993266858132017-10-18T19:54:21.806-04:002017-10-18T19:54:21.806-04:00LBD --
Feminism has screwed a lot of things up, an...LBD --<br />Feminism has screwed a lot of things up, and what you describe is one of them. You simply can't push two completely and diametrically opposed agendas at the same time: on the one hand, that women can do everything men can do, and can be Army Rangers and be in combat positions in the Marines, and that they should be liberated from any kind of social strictures and have the same kind of sexuality men have. And on the other, that women are such delicate flowers that if you crack a dirty joke in their presence or look at them the wrong way it constitutes harassment, and that after two drinks they are unable to make a simple yes or no decision when it comes to having sex. Both of these agendas are wrongheaded, too, on top of the fact that they are entirely in conflict with each other. You've just described what's wrong with the first agenda very well; and the natural order of things is that a lot of young girls WILL be frightened by male sexuality, all the propaganda of "Sex and the City" aside. <br /><br />Nonetheless, all that said, Rose McGowan has still gone off the rails. She no doubt has a legitimate beef with Harvey Weinstein, who I'm guessing DID rape her. But now that beef has extended to a lot of other people. And given how she used to present herself, and how she worked with Weinstein perfectly well after the rape, and how she worked with Victor Salva, there seems to be a certain hypocrisy there. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-82157636344393914532017-10-18T19:49:57.406-04:002017-10-18T19:49:57.406-04:00John - I will say that this person Rose McGowan...John - I will say that this person Rose McGowan's credibility comes into question when she decides to break a non disclosure agreement. It strike me as totally - mercenary.<br />Shaun Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17425084501514329529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-94683836210104482017-10-18T18:23:19.212-04:002017-10-18T18:23:19.212-04:00I don't think men understand quite how much bo...I don't think men understand quite how much bottled up rage most women carry around due to the continual harassment we experience when young and powerless. What men view as trivial or harmless (such as catcalling) or consider a "compliment" can be frightening to a lone young girl. Nearly every woman has had a scary encounter in her teenage years with men who do not consider themselves predators in any way, and often would be baffled that they were seen as such.....until it happens to their teenage daughter.<br /><br />Compounding the problem is our societal denial of the need to protect girls and young women. Earlier ages insisted on chaperones, now girls are expected to handle everything themselves. Whenever an older woman tries to point out that it's simply not safe to get drunk in public, not safe to be alone with a man in his hotel room, dorm room or apartment, we are screamed at for "blaming the victim" and denying women and girls their freedom. <br /><br />Movies depict girls ludicrously winning physical fights with men, and young girls often will say "I can take care of myself". They don't know how delusional they are.<br /><br />Cindy Crawford has told of her early days in modeling. Her mother accompanied her to her shoots in Milan and Paris. The result was that she never experienced the horrendous exploitation that her fellow teen models did when they were alone in Europe. These were fifteen and sixteen year old girls sharing apartments in foreign countries unsupervised. What were their parents thinking?LBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09801426778490250668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-1273138194060544522017-10-17T21:34:10.724-04:002017-10-17T21:34:10.724-04:00Shaun --
Normally there would be, at least giving ...Shaun --<br />Normally there would be, at least giving back the money, but Harvey may be a little too distracted to go after her at the moment. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-17630409752381938402017-10-17T21:20:07.073-04:002017-10-17T21:20:07.073-04:00John - Is there no legal consequence for breaking ...John - Is there no legal consequence for breaking a non disclosure agreement?<br /><br />ShaunShaun Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17425084501514329529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-84918847596192902802017-10-17T11:32:51.707-04:002017-10-17T11:32:51.707-04:00Sherie --
You're right, Uma hasn't said a ...Sherie --<br />You're right, Uma hasn't said a word. Neither has Charlize Theron, or Renee Zellweger, or a bunch of others who've starred in his movies. And yes, in most cases it was mutually beneficial, though it sounds as if there were also some cases of rape. And indecent exposure. <br /><br />Though the last few posts shouldn't e interpreted as a defense of Harvey, he was definitely a bad guy, it's just that the rest of Hollywood is showing a fair amount of hypocrisy too. I'm sort of glad it's coming to light though, it also sort of exposes the hollowness of so many of their other virtue-signaling poses. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-56112323680258838092017-10-17T11:04:36.011-04:002017-10-17T11:04:36.011-04:00GT --
I just did the same search and yes, she does...GT --<br />I just did the same search and yes, she does look different. A lot of times when actresses do this is pretty much spells the end of their careers; they look different, not better. I've never liked those filling procedures; to me, if a woman stays fit (i.e., doesn't gain weight) while she ages naturally, she stays attractive. But those plumping out procedures often make them look like different people, and all of the original, subtle beauty is lost, where it wouldn't have been if the only change had been a few wrinkles.John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-51811010808424601682017-10-17T11:04:18.697-04:002017-10-17T11:04:18.697-04:00Your right about McGowan, she had no qualms about...Your right about McGowan, she had no qualms about working with and posing with a man who supposedly molested. As a woman I would find that extremely difficult. She knows she does not have anymore mileage in the beauty department so the best way to get attention is fight for the rights of abused woman. What a hypocrite - enjoyed making hay while she could.<br /><br />The one actress who has not joined the "Woman Abused by Harvey Bandwagon" is Uma Thurman and hope she does not. Having made so many movies with him surely, she must be having her<br />own stories. Except for a few cases most women had the choice of walking out of the<br />man's orbit. But they chose to stay and work and pose with him. Says a lot about their character. In most cases it was a mutually beneficially association. He definitely did <br />not point a gun to their heads.<br /><br />SherieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-58047920801941185202017-10-17T10:55:06.771-04:002017-10-17T10:55:06.771-04:00Agree John - She is lashing out at any and everyon...Agree John - She is lashing out at any and everyone but the root of her rage maybe internal. Living in Hollywood, I could see her going under the cosmetic knife to keep up her appearance. That might explain why she now has a shaved head; to separate herself from "Hollywood". Of course, she could have a shaved head due to a part she is about to play... <br /><br />I just did a search on Rose McGowan and cosmetic surgery and a bunch of positive hits come up. She does appear to look different in the before and after photos.GThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03967715560960698018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-88618789450065671672017-10-17T10:22:15.942-04:002017-10-17T10:22:15.942-04:00GT --
All that is probably true. But I think it go...GT --<br />All that is probably true. But I think it goes even deeper; she's probably not happy about the way her life has turned out. Her three year marriage to David Leavitt ended in 2016, with both of them agreeing to destroy the embryos they had been planning to use for in vitro fertilization, so at age 44 it seems that opportunity has passed her by. And her days as a hot young actress are now over, too; that has to be a little depressing. So it's probably a confluence of a lot of things. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-77209461642765345822017-10-17T09:25:14.185-04:002017-10-17T09:25:14.185-04:00I can't help but wonder if deep down Rose is m...<br />I can't help but wonder if deep down Rose is mad at herself for:<br />- not speaking up sooner <br />- taking the hush money<br />- continuing to appear in movies associated with her rapist<br /><br />If what she claims is true, as a rape victim, she might also be blaming herself for her rape. <br /><br /><br /><br />GThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03967715560960698018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-24407944521814243212017-10-16T21:43:23.354-04:002017-10-16T21:43:23.354-04:00Anon --
According to Wiki, four of the six films s...Anon --<br />According to Wiki, four of the six films she has appeared in since 2011 have been "short films." So, the work seems to have dried up somewhat. <br /><br />That crewcut says to me she's pretty much given up on roles which call for a sex symbol. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-32174260459063183912017-10-16T21:36:53.604-04:002017-10-16T21:36:53.604-04:00What a nightmare. Is she still acting? What a nightmare. Is she still acting? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com