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Saturday, July 23, 2016

"We're imagining a world without police"

Two days ago the Chicago Tribune ran article, Protesters chain themselves together in front of Chicago police station:

The text:

Dozens of activists and protesters took to the streets of North Lawndale on Wednesday night to demand city tax money be invested in alternatives to traditional policing.

An hour into the evening protest, about 10 demonstrators were arrested and charged with obstructing a roadway after they chained their bodies together and blocked the entrance to the Chicago Police Department's Homan Square facility.

"We're imagining a world without police," said Camesha Jones, 24, of Bronzeville. "The city of Chicago has spent (millions) of dollars because of police misconduct settlements. I'm here to imagine a world where that money would be spent on education, mental health, to open school, clinics, create jobs."

The demonstration coincided with similar protests Wednesday in New York and Washington, D.C.

Well.....there's actually a very easy solution to this. If certain communities do not want police there, they should be granted that wish. 

Then they can live together in peace and harmony and love, without being preyed upon by those horrible racist police. 

It would be an interesting experiment. 


Anonymous said...

I say to those people who want to experiment having zero law enforcement, give it a try, and see what happens. There are some pretty good, logical reasons that all societies have law enforcement in place. Ignoramuses in my book.

- Susan

Shaun F said...

John - Some countries have a strong military presence on the streets rather than a police force.

John Craig said...

Shaun --
I think in some of those countries, the military basically ARE the police.

The Ambivalent Misanthrope said...

I think that's a fantastic solution. I have another suggestion as regards the money drain from civil settlements: knock those off. Overhaul tort laws and do away with endless lawsuits over every scalded finger, slight and perceived wrong. I don't believe any other country on earth indulges litigation to the extent we do here. If we could sue God, we would. It's disgusting.

John Craig said...

Ambivalent Misanthrope --
Agreed. Unfortunately, the ABA pretty much owns the Democratic party, and most attempts at tort reform and quashing frivolous lawsuits have been stymied.

Anonymous said...

A world without police would be a good thing because it would mean an end to the police state and enforcement of laws made by the worst people: liberals. What conservatives don't realize is cops are the government. When they say they don't like big government, don't want free speech or freedom of religion violated, or the second amendment violated, or don't want the government telling people what they can't eat or the size of soda a business can sell, then they shouldn't like cops. It's not the politicians who make these laws reality but cops who use threats of violence and actual violence to enforce them. Conservatives say government bureaucrats are the worst but who do they think hire the cops and set policy. At the same time liberals complain about blacks being being targeted by police yet they are the ones who often push for those very laws which criminalize voluntary consensual behavior.

People say if you needed help who would you call but the police. The answer is no one because the police have a monopoly on the use of force and if you don't use their services to report crimes they say you committed a crime by failing to report a crime.

In a world without police we would have security that are just that; not there to enforce abusive, unconstitutional, illegal, inhumane and just plain stupid laws. We would have security who would watch for rape, murder, theft, battery, assault, and vandalism hoping to deter it and if need be respond to it. We wouldn't have cops who are high way robbers using a person voluntarily and consensually not wearing a seat belt or going over some arbitrary number as a pretext. I think the biggest area that leads to the problems today is the war on drugs and traffic stops. If people can not fear for their lives when they are driving and are free from persecution for possessing plants, pills or powders, police interaction will then be for real crimes.

John Craig said...

Anon --
You make good points but who would provide the security against rape, murder, theft, etc? Private security forces offer even more opportunity for abuse.