tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post3549197997276401413..comments2024-02-17T04:06:00.805-05:00Comments on Just Not Said: Sexbots and feministsJohn Craighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-42003314884707788332016-10-13T07:14:49.180-04:002016-10-13T07:14:49.180-04:00Gethin --
"Mission creep" -- well put. I...Gethin --<br />"Mission creep" -- well put. I wasn't seriously suggesting that I think that's what feminism stands for with that statement, by the way, I was merely trying to point out their hypocrisy. <br /><br />Couldn't agree with yo more about what feminism has turned into. Those are great examples, especially the bit about some of them wanting to get rid of due process. They're the extreme long end of the movement, but nonetheless, you can always tell something about a movement from its vanguard.John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-81244230411638917532016-10-13T04:14:11.646-04:002016-10-13T04:14:11.646-04:00"Also, don't feminists believe that what ..."Also, don't feminists believe that what goes on behind closed doors is no one else's business, and that the government shouldn't poke its nose into anyone else's bedroom?"<br /><br />Not at all! Feminism started as a noble quest for genuine equality of the sexes but, now that that's pretty much been achieved in the West, it's turned into mission creep. Contemporary feminists are narcissists who use "misogyny" as an explanation for why they failed to achieve anything in life. Try debating a feminist and she will show you all the classic signs of narcissism - defensiveness, haughtiness, a lack of empathy, never apologising, etc. <br /><br />No, feminists love the idea of a totalitarian government regulating everyone's sex lives and preventing anyone from having body modifications (read anything by Sheila Jeffreys if you don't believe me). Feminists and sex workers are the biggest enemies. Sex workers see prostitution as a way of earning a lot more than the minimum wage they'd otherwise be confined to. Feminists think sex workers are traitors to the female sex. Sheila Jeffreys said that any woman achieving orgasm with a man is "colluding with her own oppression". Feminists are forever calling for the criminalisation of prositution, cosmetic surgeries, pornography, etc. They're against due process for rape defendants, some arguing that defendants should be imprisoned on a woman's word alone, with no police investigation or trial at all.<br /><br />- GethinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-1540783637388243222016-09-09T21:34:30.097-04:002016-09-09T21:34:30.097-04:00Steven --
If they actually grew skin in a lab, it ...Steven --<br />If they actually grew skin in a lab, it would have to be under ideal conditions, and it would have to be given some sort of nutrition and blood supply to feed it and keep it healthy. Skin is living, breathing organ; there's no way it would survive when put on a machine, and I can't imagine anyway they're planning on making sexbots with it. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-37828077900215900972016-09-09T19:30:37.759-04:002016-09-09T19:30:37.759-04:00I can't really see any other way to make the s...I can't really see any other way to make the skin realistic. Its possibly to grow meat in the lab so... looked it up, apparently skin has been grown in the lab but not organs.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15276736643046430370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-62342077108348459382016-09-09T15:31:50.832-04:002016-09-09T15:31:50.832-04:00Steven --
Ha, hadn't thought of that but yes, ...Steven --<br />Ha, hadn't thought of that but yes, sexbots would essentially be similar. Except as I recall Arnold himself was supposed to have ben living flesh on top of a machine. sexbots won't be that. <br /><br />Yes, I mentioned sexbots for women a couple of times in the next post. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-28086617636850096812016-09-09T14:57:34.567-04:002016-09-09T14:57:34.567-04:00If you could make sexbots that looked real and con...If you could make sexbots that looked real and conversed with you, you could basically make a terminator. <br /><br />Also, anyone considered that there would be male ones too. Women like vibrators, so they might like sexbots.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15276736643046430370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-68507645732311260992016-09-07T20:22:00.419-04:002016-09-07T20:22:00.419-04:00Steven --
Think both the Left and traditional (esp...Steven --<br />Think both the Left and traditional (especially religious) conservatives could find reasons to disapprove. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-69267932085248330682016-09-07T20:13:34.252-04:002016-09-07T20:13:34.252-04:00I wouldn't discount the possibility it could b...I wouldn't discount the possibility it could be socially destructive and psychologically harmful; maybe that's the conservative in me.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15276736643046430370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-71026506308079431212016-09-07T20:10:23.802-04:002016-09-07T20:10:23.802-04:00Steven --
Yeah I have a hard time believing that t...Steven --<br />Yeah I have a hard time believing that they'll really be all that realistic by the 2040's. And that they'll be programmed to the point where they can really have a conversation. <br /><br />Agree about the feminists. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-49065081912847582252016-09-07T20:08:00.536-04:002016-09-07T20:08:00.536-04:00it could possibly still be enjoyable but i think i...it could possibly still be enjoyable but i think i'd actually be weirded out by one that is too realistic.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15276736643046430370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-37607432817753498212016-09-07T20:04:21.324-04:002016-09-07T20:04:21.324-04:00I don't like the thought of having sex with a ...I don't like the thought of having sex with a robot, it doesn't seem like it would be the same, and I'll believe in super realistic ones when I see them (they would need real skin, right?). At least a part of sexual enjoyment is the interaction with another person, how they react and express pleasure and the fact they are consciously enjoying it. A simulation of feminine sexuality but without them being conscious would't be the same...but that's a whole other philosophical areas.<br /><br />I think feminists come up with all these arguments to justify their opposition but the real reason they don't like it is they realise deep down that sex is one of women's main sources of power over men. They simply don't want to give up their monopoly on sex.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15276736643046430370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-50731575745601362016-09-07T11:59:18.274-04:002016-09-07T11:59:18.274-04:00Why sexbots? Virtual reality seems to avoid that u...Why sexbots? Virtual reality seems to avoid that uncanny valley which would turn most people off. Unless there is a large enough market for people who DON"T WANT realistic dolls to be invented. OOOOOoooooooooouuuuggghhhhAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-87467648130254064932016-09-07T07:21:08.678-04:002016-09-07T07:21:08.678-04:00Samuel --
Just read the entire article. Yes, she i...Samuel --<br />Just read the entire article. Yes, she is. At first I was going to say, well, I don't know enough about her personal life to say. But the signs of sociopathy she does show are so glaring there's really no doubt. Tellingly, her Wiki entry starts off by saying, "Elizabeth Holmes is a con artist who......"<br /><br />I'd never really paid her all that much attention before, to tell the truth. I knew who she was, and had read the headlines, but for some reason had not gotten into the details. I may get around to writing a sociopath alert about her, but not sure.John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-53582612273134949592016-09-06T22:41:25.055-04:002016-09-06T22:41:25.055-04:00Hi, John. Apologies for my long absence.
Sociopa...Hi, John. Apologies for my long absence.<br /><br />Sociopath alert? http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/09/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-exclusiveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-48226250676254458342016-09-06T21:33:00.809-04:002016-09-06T21:33:00.809-04:00Douglas Carkuff --
Thank you. Gotta disagree with...Douglas Carkuff --<br /><br />Thank you. Gotta disagree with you though over what the vast majority of men would want in a fembot. While everybody wants an emotional connection, I don't think that's what they'd be looking for in a fembot/sexbot, they'd prefer to have Johansson's voice AND Johansson's body. I have my doubts, though, about whether they'll ever be able to make a sexbot that realistic. <br /><br />We're incomplete agreement about the feminists. <br /><br />I agree with you about prostitutes in principle, but in practice they seem to be the kind of people it's hard to respect. Maybe if the profession were more respected, that might change. <br /><br />Never saw The Sessions, although I remember it got good reviews. I'm generally not drawn to movies with such sad themes, I don't like going to movie to get depressed. I prefer......escapism. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-52076634478224858452016-09-06T21:00:56.442-04:002016-09-06T21:00:56.442-04:00Hi John, I always enjoy reading what you have to s...Hi John, I always enjoy reading what you have to say. With respect to this fembot thing, I suspect that the vast majority of men would prefer something equivalent to the Scarlet Johansson character in the movie Her over a simulated female doll. What most men (and women, I suspect) hunger for is the emotional connection with another consciousness. As far as the prudishness of the kind of feminists you reference, who are these smug ass hats to judge lonely people, ugly people, disabled people who are desperate to make some sort of intimate connection, simulated or not, with another human being? My personal view, in a perfect world, is that prostitutes should be respected and seen as performing a public service. Have you ever seen that movie The Sessions? I found it to be very moving. my best, dougAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17675743083307379420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-46003981808726671352016-09-06T11:16:30.880-04:002016-09-06T11:16:30.880-04:00Puzzled --
I had wondered about Niyonsaba, she had...Puzzled --<br />I had wondered about Niyonsaba, she had a somewhat masculine face too, but looked downright girly next to Semenya and Wambui. One thing that confuses me is that given the already extantAfrican genetic advantage in running, you'd think they'd be able to produce some hormonally normal women who could beat the white girls in the field. It almost seems like overkill to produce these three hyperandrogenic women to club the rest of the field into submission. <br /><br />Alyson Felix has already been beaten on a few occasions by steroided Jamaican sprinters, who are effectively hyperandrogenic, though their androgens came exogenously. And I'd add the Dutch girl, Dafne Schippers, to that list of sprinters who are 'roided up. <br /><br />You're right, the editorial writers who've been saying that it's unfair NOT to let the intersexed compete seem to feel they're striking a blow for feminism, when in fact the very people being hurt are women. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-68765770297712749262016-09-06T10:47:57.552-04:002016-09-06T10:47:57.552-04:00PS to above - I didn't realize that ALL THREE ...PS to above - I didn't realize that ALL THREE of the top finishers in the 800M Olympics were intersexual:<br /><br />http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/rio-2016/christie-blatchford-female-athletes-competing-against-intersex-women-a-difficult-complex-issue<br /><br />PuzzledAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-9374882127078659612016-09-06T10:44:21.487-04:002016-09-06T10:44:21.487-04:00There's weirdo etiquette about gay parenting. ...There's weirdo etiquette about gay parenting. You are not supposed to ask who/where the bio parents are, etc. I regularly flout this. You should see the looks on their faces, John.<br /><br />If you don't mind my bringing this up, Caster Semenya just destroyed yet another field of women:<br /><br />http://www.euronews.com/2016/09/03/david-rudisha-and-caster-semenya-shine-in-berlin<br /><br />'Semenya was even more impressive as she stormed away to win her race from the woman she beat in Rio, Burundi’s Francine Niyonsaba, with Kenya’s Eunice Sum in third."<br /><br />Niyonsaba is also hyperandrogenic:<br /><br />http://kenyapage.net/commentary/kenya-athletics-news-3/court-ruling-paves-the-way-for-complete-dominance-by-semenya/<br /><br />Semenya has gotten so much attention that Margaret Wambui has flown under radar, although you've mentioned her:<br /><br />https://citizentv.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/NYAIRERA-POSE.jpg<br /><br />Seriously, there must be several hundred thousand of these "women" in Africa, several million in the world. The African contingent alone (already gifted with various African genetic cards) is enough to destroy women's athletics. So far none of them has invaded the sacred space of the marquee sprinting events, but that's only a matter of time. What will happen when the pretty Alyson Felix types get pounded into the sand by Margaret Wambui types? <br /><br />The logic of 1970s radical feminism is being assaulted everywhere yet it never seems to die. I think all of this is a front man (LOL) for globalism. The global elite finds feminism a handy advertising tool. Meanwhile, real women don't benefit.<br /><br />PuzzledAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-34629926695680119062016-09-06T09:40:16.625-04:002016-09-06T09:40:16.625-04:00Mark --
No question, there's going to be a who...Mark --<br />No question, there's going to be a whole new etiquette springing up around these things. Even if not in the (humorous, satirical) way you've described, there'll be all sorts of unwritten rules about respecting people's privacy, etc. It's gonna be interesting. I'm actually currently writing a post about how these things will be regarded, will post it in a day or two.John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-21981954645565251642016-09-06T09:24:25.190-04:002016-09-06T09:24:25.190-04:00Sexbots aren't just for satisfying one's b...Sexbots aren't just for satisfying one's base physical urges. I sat next to a sexbot on a recent flight. The conversation was riveting.<br /><br />"Sexbot," by the way, marks you as an insensitive white-ish male of privilege. The acutely politically correct <i>New York Times</i> style guide says "sexbot" carries negative connotations of marginalization and oppression and should be avoided except when quoting a speaker, and then it must appear in quotes. Instead of "sexbot," the preferred term is now <i>injection-molded comfort woman.</i>Mark Caplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157338755022593966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-54358702497960378182016-09-06T05:59:05.351-04:002016-09-06T05:59:05.351-04:00Mark --
Ha. Well, if they do decide that, at least...Mark --<br />Ha. Well, if they do decide that, at least the alimony costs should be minimal. <br /><br />Actually, given the feminist take that these machines "come from prostitution," how long is it before someone on the Left suggests that these machines come from slavery? After all, the owners do own these poor female robots. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-23531255110746321832016-09-05T23:03:49.005-04:002016-09-05T23:03:49.005-04:00To eliminate any suggestion of prostitution in the...To eliminate any suggestion of prostitution in the sexual relationship with a robot, man-bot marriage must be legalized. This will prove controversial at first. No doubt Evangelical Christians across the South will have a hard time cozying up to the idea, but I'm confident the Supreme Court will declare man-bot marriage a fundamental constitutional right.Mark Caplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157338755022593966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-55119733657739098942016-09-05T17:36:15.541-04:002016-09-05T17:36:15.541-04:00Mark --
Ha! Biological anthropology is still a res...Mark --<br />Ha! Biological anthropology is still a respectable field, but social anthropology has long been rife with charlatans and fools. Every since Margaret Mead went to the South Pacific and came back with that classic work of fiction (unbeknownst to her), "Coming of Age in Samoa," it's been nothing but an offshoot of sociology, which has long been a bastion of bs. <br /><br />I just excised the last portion of the post, with her picture, because I decided it was too nasty of me to include it. But Richardson, like Mead, probably has limited experience of real life herself, and her pronouncements about what sex should be seem to come from a place of naivete. I also took down Blatt's picture, which I had included just to show how young (and evidently naive) he is as well. He's evidently a freelance writer who lives in China; he writes like a high school student who's eager to please his liberal female civics teacher. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-88608076109990406502016-09-05T17:23:07.175-04:002016-09-05T17:23:07.175-04:00Kathleen Richardson's personal profile at De M...Kathleen Richardson's personal profile at De Montfort University in Leicester, England, says, "Kathleen completed her PhD at the Department of <b>Anthropology</b>, University of Cambridge." "In 2015 she, along with her colleague launched the Campaign Against Sex Robots."<br /><br />Thank God she's just another silly anthropologist. With her absurd, scatterbrained arguments, if she had been a credentialed academic philosopher, it would have marked the end of Western civilization as we know it.Mark Caplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157338755022593966noreply@blogger.com