tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post5730986301744601421..comments2024-02-17T04:06:00.805-05:00Comments on Just Not Said: A cliche of a sociopathJohn Craighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-53069089843065372812016-06-05T17:14:59.771-04:002016-06-05T17:14:59.771-04:00D --
Thanks for your understanding. Yes, nothing l...D --<br />Thanks for your understanding. Yes, nothing like a little "involuntary field work" to educate one about sociopathy. <br /><br />And yes, sociopaths do take advantage of other people's goodwill and naiveté. And you understand how they get leverage perfectly; it's their stock in trade. And yes, Joyce Mitchell is probably a good example of that. <br /><br />If you're going to comment here on a regular basis, you might consider using more than "D." It doesn't have to be your real name, obviously, in fact SHOULDN'T be your real name if you're being stalked, but I'll "recognize" you better with more than one initial. And the first time you use it, let me know it's "D." Thanks. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-35371998218533891822016-06-05T15:53:35.494-04:002016-06-05T15:53:35.494-04:00I do understand, no worries. I might become a reg...I do understand, no worries. I might become a regualr reader of your blog --- it's very refreshing and well-written --- and I'll probably be commenting on any bits about sociopaths, as I now feel quite, um, educated about them.<br /><br />One of the most insightful, common-sense things you've observed is that people tend to assume that others think like them and are motivated by similar goals/values. Nothing I've come across yet has lifted the burden of embarrassment that I've felt over having been manipulated by a sociopath. It just did not occur to me that someone could be so thoroughly mercenary, opportunistic and lacking in basic human decency or sense of loyalty. <br /><br />As far as this particular story is concerned, I imagine this woman was drawn into the guy's magnetic charm spell, crossed one line at some point (under said spell), and then he had her under his thumb (because she was now his co-conspirator, in a manner of speaking). Pure conjecture, I admit, but it's a tried-and-true method with sociopaths. (Probably how David Sweat and Rihard Matt got Joyce Mitchell to do what she did. It always starts small, but once a law is broken, they've got collateral).<br /><br />My apologies for staying anonymous on here, but 'my' sociopath cyberstalks me on occasion.<br /><br />---DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-64230659532754961522016-06-05T13:56:34.008-04:002016-06-05T13:56:34.008-04:00D --
First, thank you very much. Second, please fo...D --<br />First, thank you very much. Second, please forgive me, but I don't know you, so I'd rather not. Thinking back, it has a lot of personal stuff I'd probably want to rewrite and update and possibly even make less personal. But I promise you, I've already excerpted what are probably the two best parts in this blog, and the stuff I have about sociopaths in the blog is both more timely and probably more entertaining than the manuscript. The two (fairly long) parts I've excerpted are, first, this one about how I was introduced to the subject:<br /><br />http://justnotsaid.blogspot.com/2014/08/how-i-became-interested-in-sociopathy.html<br /><br />And, the analysis of Bill Clinton's personality:<br /><br />http://justnotsaid.blogspot.com/2010/08/sociopath-alert-bill-clinton.htmlJohn Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-87098323724462851722016-06-05T13:04:39.211-04:002016-06-05T13:04:39.211-04:00I love all your posts on sociopathy and sociopaths...I love all your posts on sociopathy and sociopaths. I think they're more informative and insightful than many a textbook description. <br /><br />Several commenters have mentioned that you wrote a manuscript for a book on the subject. Would you be willing to share it with me? I have a personal interest, as I fell prey to a sociopath in a big way. No, not an ex-husband, thank goodness!<br /><br />---DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-201427254398150092016-06-04T16:20:14.884-04:002016-06-04T16:20:14.884-04:00Ok yes, I agree with you about their paranoia bein...Ok yes, I agree with you about their paranoia being projection, I stand corrected.Justinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-7453308135366244482016-06-04T05:24:16.569-04:002016-06-04T05:24:16.569-04:00Justin --
I agree with what you say about their la...Justin --<br />I agree with what you say about their lack of understanding of cause and effect, but I think their paranoia is separate. They tend to be paranoid -- and think that people are out to get them -- simply because eTHEY are always out to get others. Most people just assume that others are like them, so, in the same way that nice people will always ascribe the best of motives to others, sociopaths always assume the worst about others. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-58092239977186207892016-06-03T23:18:59.814-04:002016-06-03T23:18:59.814-04:00I think it should be added to such lists. It seems...I think it should be added to such lists. It seems to derive from their lack of a clear or rational understanding of cause and effect relationships, and go hand in hand with their paranoia. Justinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-25186425508276193342016-06-03T17:28:39.286-04:002016-06-03T17:28:39.286-04:00Justin --
Now that you mention it, I recall that o...Justin --<br />Now that you mention it, I recall that one of the two sociopaths I knew best used to talk about not jinxing things, but he was the only one I knew who was, and I've never seen it listed on a list of their traits. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-18001389528523340882016-06-03T17:00:25.830-04:002016-06-03T17:00:25.830-04:00Is being superstitious a common sociopath trait? T...Is being superstitious a common sociopath trait? The three I've known all were, but I don't recall ever seeing it on a list of traits.Justinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-64457000642178253332016-06-03T06:05:22.206-04:002016-06-03T06:05:22.206-04:00Anon (of 4:50AM) --
In this case you're absolu...Anon (of 4:50AM) --<br />In this case you're absolutely right, Melngailis was complicit in her crime, and deserves her jail time. And those reactions you describe are typical reactions to a sociopath's electrifying and charming personality. But there are plenty of people who are relatively innocent victims of sociopaths, people the sociopath charmed and fleeced, people who were soft touches and simply gave money to the sociopath who preyed on them. Yes, they had to have been gullible to do this, but we're all gullible until we get to know our first sociopath. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-26229298394206159442016-06-03T05:50:53.679-04:002016-06-03T05:50:53.679-04:00Anon --
You're right; they cannot be rehabilit...Anon --<br />You're right; they cannot be rehabilitated. one thing all of the people in that field agree on is that once a sociopath, always a sociopath. they can no more grow a conscience later in life than you or I could grow a third arm. <br /><br />I've always thought that the appropriate penalty for sociopaths would be to be put on an island with nothing but other sociopaths. But, given that that's impossible, yes, there is something to be said for frontier justice. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-70058870443646573042016-06-03T04:50:42.494-04:002016-06-03T04:50:42.494-04:00in defense of the psychopaths, however, the "...in defense of the psychopaths, however, the "reality distortion field" is fun for the normal person who pays the bills...if the normal didn't like it, THEY WOULDN'T DO IT...the normal person says to the psychopath "I have never felt so alive" and "my life was worthless before I met you" and "I would do anything for you"...so the psychopath may be forgiven for assuming that "anything" stretches to include spending ALL THE MONEY and/or going to prison...<br /><br />now I am not upholding either the victim or the psychopath as models of correct behavior here... rather I am making the point cops make when speaking frankly: "victims (almost) always are doing something wrong"<br /><br />just like the vampire movie cliche, where the vampire has to be invited across the threshold, the victim DOES OVERLOOK GOOD PRACTICES and obvious clues and then invite the vampire inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-13489361338306847152016-06-03T01:54:45.680-04:002016-06-03T01:54:45.680-04:00I'm convinced that when humanity, or some dist...I'm convinced that when humanity, or some distinct branch of it, has evolved enough, sociopaths will be dealt with just as the Eskimos did: they'll be "pushed off the ice". <br /><br /> Sociopaths cannot be punished, in the true sense of the word. You can make their circumstances unpleasant, inflict pain on them, but it won't change anything. It's like punishing a cat. The cat does not associate pain, deprivation, etc, with the act it has committed. A dog does to a certain extent. <br /><br /> Putting them in jail does keep them out of circulation, and if you keep them long enough you get an old sociopath who is less likely to do certain things because he's too old, physically less agile, etc., but he is still the same old sociopath. <br /><br /> In the pioneer days, such people were sometimes lynched, and sometimes they just vanished. Back then, most adult men, and many of the women, could dig a six foot hole with a shovel. Today many of us can't even change a car tire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-51153438376400829272016-06-02T22:18:00.170-04:002016-06-02T22:18:00.170-04:00Hooter Tooter --
Yep, Blaha certainly sounds like ...Hooter Tooter --<br />Yep, Blaha certainly sounds like another one. <br /><br />Sociopaths never seem to claim to have been mechanics in the Army, or cooks, or computer operators. It's always Special Forces of some sort. And the CIA stuff is almost as common. John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794535954827182754.post-53018805364217510642016-06-02T21:35:25.414-04:002016-06-02T21:35:25.414-04:00Reminds me of Jason Blaha, a youtuber, with his CI...Reminds me of Jason Blaha, a youtuber, with his CIA background claims. Since he posts videos his claims are easy to document. See:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuOU4tly_fA<br /><br />I'm only passingly familiar with him, but I know that he slandered someone a few years ago, who then sued him and while Jason maintained that he had some high powered lawyers working on his behalf, in the end he didn't even show up for court. Didn't seem to faze Jason 'though, so he may very well be on of your scociopaths.lowlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02503732259562252160noreply@blogger.com