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Saturday, October 3, 2015

"Secret Service agents: Hillary is a nightmare to work with"

The worm's eye view of a person is always far more illuminating than any other view.

Update, next day: yet another book detailing Hillary's violent tantrums, many of them directed against Bill. 

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

She is a horrible person. So, when Hillary is in public (trying) to win votes, she puts on the charm (shall we say) and once she's behind closed doors, Hillary is back to being her difficult, rude self. If she were ever to be President (God forbid), I imagine she'd be a dictator. This woman wants power and control.

- birdie


John Craig said...

Birdie --
You're right. She's Lady MacBeth.

Quartermain said...

From what I have been reading, it seems to me that Hillary makes Lady MacBeth look like Donna Reed by comparison.

John Craig said...

Allan --
I'd agree. What's interesting too is how all of this stuff is coming out now. There seem to be an awful lot of people on both sides who hate her. It's not surprising that the Secret Service guys who had to work for her dislike her, both for personal and possibly political reasons. (My guess is that most Secret Service guys are by nature more inclined to be Republicans in the first place.) But there are a lot of people in the Democratic party who have it out for her too. Supposedly a lot of this email scandal stuff is being leaked by the Obama administration; it's well known that there's been a lot of bad blood between the Clintons and Obamas for a long time. And how is it that Bernie Sanders' poll numbers have been so strong? A short, white-haired 74 year old who's a self-proclaimed socialist is actually beating her in NH right now. Who'd a thunk?

Steven said...

I thought you'd like this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/11910639/Vladimir-Putin-sees-Barack-Obamas-coolness-as-weakness-and-it-is-hurting-America.html

John Craig said...

Steven --
I think the article is right, and Putin DOES see Obama as weak, and he IS taking advantage of it. But the thing is, as much as I despise Obama, I think he's actually been pretty good as far as the Middle East goes. He hasn't gotten us involved in any more wars, and his policy of selected strikes against terrorists with drones is infinitely preferable to another endless ground war with thousands of American boys being killed. It's just not in our interest to get involved in all of the various sectarian civil wars which have erupted since the Arab Spring.

Steven said...

I think it has been a mistake for the western powers to depose Arab dictators and expect something nicer to take their place. It has led to chaos and bloodshed and unleashed those sectarian forces.

I'm talking specifically about Sadam, Gadaffi and the weakening of Assad by supporting the rebels instead of him. These things have led to both ISIS (actions in Iraq and Syria) and the migrant/refugee crisis (Syria and Libya).

Libya and Syria have both been post-Arab spring foreign policy.

Certainly not sending any young American men like your son to die in the desert has been a good thing and praiseworthy but I would not count foreign policy of the Obama years as a success.

I know the EU must take a lot of responsibility but relations with Russia have been poorly handled imo. There has been both an unnecessary deterioration of relations between the west and Russia and an increase in Russian power and confidence.

I am sympathetic to Russia on both the the Ukraine issue and on the side they have chosen in Syria. I'm sure there are some good people in the anti-Assad camp but deposing Assad would most likely lead to the likes to ISIS taking power.

We can talk about staying out of the middle east and letting them get on with it but there was an established order that provided some level of stability and peace that the west has overturned.

John Craig said...

Steven --
I basically agree with everything you said. And I'd add Mubarak to the list of badmen who at least insured stability. Now it's, as you say, chaos.

I'd be against more US military involvement in the Middle East even if my son weren't a soldier.

And yes, Putin is a far more reasonable man than he is portrayed by the Western media. He stood up for the Russians in the Ukraine and he has always been an ally of Assad's. And he, like just about everybody else, recognizes ISIS as the barbarous entity that it is.

Steven said...

Yeah. At least Mubarak was removed from power by Egyptian demonstrators and not by foreign bombs. It was a good effort at establishing democracy but unfortunately it didn't work out. The process was complicated and perhaps undermined by the presence of islamists, and the divisions between islamists and secularists.


I suppose its easy to be wise with the benefit of hindsight. The invasions/airstrikes/support of rebels I mentioned would have probably been a good thing if they had actually established democracy, freedom and the rule of law.

I agree Putin is more reasonable than depicted. A while ago, the whole media went into overdrive with anti-Putin propaganda. I would have been happy for the culturally Russian eastern Ukraine to get a referendum on independence since the country was moving towards membership of the EU, which is looking more and more like a not so democratic German empire anyway.

Anonymous said...

I strongly suspect that Hillary and Bill share the same disorder. Having read a little bit (online) about her family-of-origin, it is entirely possible.

-birdie

John Craig said...

Birdie --
Bill is unquestionably a sociopath. But I'm on the fence about Hillary. She doesn't have any of the natural charm or glibness of a sociopath. She's certainly dishonest, and corrupt. But I've always thought that that was something she learned at Bill's feet, so to speak. But recently, I've come around a bit more to your point of view. Still not sure though.

Anonymous said...

Hillary's mother was abandoned at an early age by her parents, sent (via a train) to live with her paternal grandparents (who came across as unloving). Now, Hillary's dad (based on a May 2015 Daily Mail article covering her brothers), is described (by her cousin Oscar Dowdy) as having been a bully to his sons and a man who was dishonest in his business dealings. Her brothers were jealous of Hillary because she was their dad's favorite, never being treated the same way that their father treated them. The cousin said that Hillary knew how to manipulate her dad, to get what she wanted. I just think that with the family dynamics, it was possible for her to at least be on the sociopathic spectrum (if there is such a thing).

-birdie


-birdie

John Craig said...

Birdie --
I had heard a bout the mother being brought up by her grandparents but hadn't heard that about the dad. Wow, that's a dysfunctional background, and you just made a good case for Hillary being a sociopath herself. I always assumed that she started out at Wellesley as a typically idealistic and naive young girl who wad gradually corrupted by her association with Bill, and by her longtime observation about how lis lies paid off for him. But it IS sounding more and more as if she herself was a monster from the start. And it sounds as if she was worse from the Secret Service agents' point of view than Bill was. Hmm.

Anonymous said...

I think that if your conscience is in good working order (and I could be wrong), your less likely to become corrupt. Hillary's conscience seems to be undeveloped or ignored.

-birdie