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Wednesday, June 15, 2016

Question about Omar Mateen

Islamic State warrior Omar Mateen, having single-handedly won the Battle of Pulse, is now in Paradise, enjoying the ministrations of 72 virgins.

But are those virgins women, or men?


Anonymous said...

Omar's final destination is not the Muslim Paradise that he possibly expected. He's in the worst place imaginable, there for eternity.

- Susan

The Ambivalent Misanthrope said...

That was decidedly wicked. :-)

~ otherwise known previously as 'D,' the admirer of your analysis of psychopathy.

John Craig said...

Ambivalent Misanthrope --
I like your new name.

(And thank you.)

jova said...

Male sex with teenage boys is an accepted practice in Afghanistan.- they call it Bacha bazi.
surprisingly Omar would not be considered homosexual in Afghanistan if he acted as the penetrator. It is common for men to have teenage lovers. The practice of "bacha bazi" -- paedophilic boy play, is an ancient custom in Afghanistan. Bacha bazi, which the US State Department has called a "culturally sanctioned form of male rape" is not considered homosexual activity for the penetrator.
'owning' more than one boy is seen as a display of both power and wealth among some Afghan war lords

Maybe Omar was looking for a Bacha bazi , which would not be considered a homosexual activity in his culture.
U.S. soldiers were instructed to ignore the sexual abuse of boys by Afghan allies, even when it occurred on military bases, according to a report in the New York Times. looking the other way was designed to maintain good standing with the U.S.-trained Afghan police and militia in a country where the practice of bacha bazi (boy play) is widespread, especially among the warlords we are supporting.

John Craig said...

Jova --
Yes, some of the Arab attitudes toward what we call homosexuality are closer to the ethos you see in American prisons, where there's nothing wrong with being a "giver" but if you're a "taker" you're considered a punk.

That's certainly possible with Mateen, though it appeared that he was looking for a more regular homosexual hookup than he was for a bacha bazi/child molester type of relationship. He cruised gay bars and gay dating apps, including "Jack'd," which doesn't sound places a child molester would be drawn to. I know one soldier who was in Afghanistan who told me he saw "tea boys" around, and most of them, at least the ones he saw hanging around the Afghan National Army guys, appeared to be in the 10 to 14 year age range.

jova said...

many of the young gays in America look better than the Bacha bazi teenage boys available in Afghanistan.

If Omar was seeking to penetrate the young men he met , it certainly fits in with Afghan cultural practices. Only in America is sex with a 15 year old considered child molestation. The age of consent is often 14. The 18-21 year old gays in America often try to appear younger than they are to get picked up. The typical gay man has hundreds of partners by the time he is 29. Yet somehow none have come out yet.

I am still not convinced Omar was gay, he seems to have been planning his attack for some time and may have been trying to scope the place out and meet some people to avoid drawing too much suspicion. It also appears he was never successful picking up gay men, which means he was not actually trying to hook-up with any. If you can't get a BJ at a gay club he must not have tried very hard. The narrative the media and democrats are pushing is to discredit him as an Islamist terrorist. Thus they will try and portray him as a conflicted homophobe. But their is actually overwhelming evidence he was radicalized by his father, a Taliban supporter. Omar celebrated the 2001 terrorist attacks when he was 14 years old, so his anti-american feelings go back to when he was quite young.

John Craig said...

Jova --
Yes, those pictures are pretty grotesque, though some of it is the makeup.

I think it's pretty clear Omar was gay. If you take a look at the previous post, there was more indication than just his visiting the gay bar(s). His own first wife said he was (and she should know), she said his father accused him of it (in front of her), and Mateen supposedly used gay dating apps. That all adds up to, gay.

Interesting about the age of consent elsewhere, I hadn't realized that, thank you.