The NY Post said today that Gennifer Flowers is claiming Bill Clinton told her that Hillary is bisexual.
The relevant quote from Ms. Flowers: "He said that Hillary had eaten more pussy than he had."
I tend to believe Flowers. I've heard that rumor elsewhere, too, including from a guy I know whose sister -- who adored HIllary -- worked at the State Department and said that there was no question she's a lesbian.
I wonder if this will become general knowledge by the time of the 2016 election.
If it is true, it would lend credence to the theory that Huma Abedin, Hillary's closest aide, is probably her lesbian lover. And if that is true, that gives credence to the theory that Huma's marriage to Anthony Weiner was merely one of political convenience. The marriage gave Weiner some powerful Democratic connections, and it gave Huma -- as well as HIllary -- some cover.
If all these thing are true -- and I suspect they are -- it also gave both Bill Clinton and Anthony Weiner good reason to stray. Anyone married to a lesbian can hardly be blamed for seeking sexual solace elsewhere.
The other rumor making the rounds recently is that Matthew Sheppard was not in fact murdered because he was gay by two homophobic men. According to author Stephen Jiminez, whose book is due out next week, the two men who killed him, Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson, used the "gay panic" narrative at their trial since they felt it would be their strongest defense. But in fact, McKinney himself had a sexual relationship with Sheppard, and both he and Sheppard dealt -- as well as used -- methamphetamines.
If this is true -- and I have no idea whether it is -- it would not only sully the image of the gay movement's number one martyr, it would bring into question his very martyrdom.
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Err, people don't believe hate facts, exploding heads and all that.
And, no, being married to lesbians gives you no excuses. It's not like the concept of divorce is unknown.
Lowly --
"Hate facts" is one of the most telling phrases going; I love it.
I'd say it does give you an excuse; divorce is (in general terms) complicated where kids are involved and expensive to boot.
I don't like either of those guys, but I also don't like the way they were given sole blame for what went wrong in their marriages, while both women were portrayed as "wronged women," when in fact they had probably cheated with just as many women.
The lesbianism certainly does give men license to seek sex elsewhere. Sex is not the primary function of marriage; it is for building families and estates. If the husband and wife mutually recognize their incompatibility, yet choose to remain married, then as long as their children are not exposed to their extramarital sex lives, it's really no one's business what they do. Where Clinton and Weiner screwed the pooch, was not their philandering, but the lack of discretion. Weiner foolishly treated his computer and phone as fishing poles for pussy, and Clinton got caught "riding a moped".
In fact, the media did him a huge favor by focusing so heavily on Lewinsky, that his truly abusive behavior with Paula Corbin and Juanita Broaddrick were glossed over.
Anon --
You're exactly right about marriage, and how those two screwed up.
And you're also exactly right about Clinton. Apart from the two women you mention, he was also kicked out of Oxford (and never completed his time there for his Rhodes Scholarship) because he raped a woman in England.
Anyone married to a lesbian can hardly be blamed for seeking sexual solace elsewhere.
thats complete bullshit. anyone married to someone who cheats on them, with any gender, can hardly be blamed for seeking sexual solace elsewhere. asshole.
Anon --
I agree with your statement. I wasn't being restrictive with that line, merely referring to the situation involving both Clinton and Weiner.
Now, were you calling me a name, or merely signing off that way?
(If you were labeling me, you wouldn't be the first; if that was how you were signing off, I'm not disagreeing.)
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Hillary were, in fact, a lesbian. I've noticed that as Hillary has gotten older, she's taken on a more manly, harsh, or less feminine physical appearance about herself. It's tough to put into words, but I think you get my drift.
Remember over a year ago, Hillary went through this real frumpy-dumpy stage when she didn't wear makeup, hardly combed her hair, and dressed in frumpy clothes? I think that's the real Hillary. She was starting to display her lesbian-hippie look and wasn't ashamed for all to see. But then she got primed for the 2016 election and started to come out of it. Now she's wearing makeup again, dressing better, and trying to appear more like a well-groomed candidate. I could be wrong, but that's how I tend to see it.
Ambrose --
I hadn't noticed the appearance change, but will take your word for it. I now what you mean about the appearance in general, though she's never quite reached the Rosie O'Donnell/Billie Jean King/Christine Quinn level of fat tomboyishness.
When I first heard people say that tie might be a lesbian, maybe 18 years ago, I just dismissed the accusations as misdirected snarkery from people who didn't like her politics or her co-President presumptuousness. But now, looking at the nature of her relationship with Bill, looking at the people she surrounds herself with, looking at the way she presents herself, I tend to believe it's true too.
http://gay-or-straight.com/Hillary%20Clinton
whereas Billy has a significantly lower score.
Lowly --
Interesting, thanks. Hillary rates a 72%, Bill a 38% on the gay-o-meter. I'm not sure I'd go by that poll; for instance, you'd think that Bill would rate even lower than 38%, as in, closer to 0%. No one would get in as much trouble as he has for chasing women without really being attracted to them.
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