People who fret about such things would say Hugh Hefner was part of the Cultural Marxist conspiracy to corrupt Protestant bourgeois values by normalizing moral degeneracy.
Mark -- I seem to hear the argument about moral degeneracy made fairly frequently, and to tell the truth, don't really get it. If Hefner was guilty of this, the "moral degeneracy" he promoted was certainly of a fairly tame variety. Nude pictures of wholesome girls? Back in the day, Playboy never even showed anything all that hardcore (by Hustler standards, at least): just a discreet view of some public hair, that was about it.
To me, "moral degeneracy" means, where one stands on the sociopathy scale. And how dishonest and hypocritical one is. Howard Stern used to be accused of degeneracy all the time, but I just saw him as honest. And he was scathingly honest about himself, as well as others.
The Left itself is incredibly morally wanting these days, at least as measured by their lack of honesty and their one-sided coverage of the news. "Degeneracy" isn't the first word that comes to mind, but I suppose it applies.
As far as normalizing various perverse sexualities, I seem to have more sympathy for gays and so on than most on the Right do, as I don't see it as a matter of choice, or even morality. To me, a heterosexual who marries someone purely for his or her money is far more morally wanting than a gay who has consensual sex with someone else just for the fun of it.
For some reason I always felt sorry for Hef. He seemed to be stuck playing the same part for 50 plus years. He was part of the Playboy brand and as such was not allowed to change as he got older. I wonder if he ever looked back and thought that he missed out on growing old with a soulmate.
GT -- That's a good point about how he was typecast, and, in a sense, forced to live that lifestyle, as pathetic as it appeared once he passed 80. And there's something to be said for long-lasting love. On the other hand, I never really got the sense that he was suffering. And I suspect most guys would have gladly changed places with him if they'd had the chance.
I wasn't thinking of the centerfold pictures (although I was in my 20's before I learned girls don't have staples in their belly button). I was thinking of the Playboy Philosophy of perpetual adolescence, never settling down to build a home and family and a life-long relationship. That's a huge departure from the white Protestants moral values of previous generations.
Today the institution of marriage itself is crumbling, with the white illegitimacy rate higher than the rate for blacks of a few decades ago.
Hugh Hefner made it to 91, a good, long life. He had four children, one I learned was from his first marriage, David. This son never entered or involved himself in his father's business. I wonder why. Anyway, may Hugh Hefner RIP.
He was a promoter of civil rights, back when it actually meant civil rights, in the 60's, so is a liberal icon despite the fact that what he's really famous for is getting pretty young females to take their clothes off so he could take pictures of them. (That's why the feminists don't go after him with quite the fervor they might otherwise.)
I say the same GOOD COMPLIMENT for Hefner that we use for Hitler or Vanilla Ice or Jack Kerouac (basically we use this compliment for anyone who was ever ascendant, anybody who wasn't born into their FLASHY ROLE, so, you couldn't say this of Prince Charles) namely:
HE HAD A GOOD RUN.
Also Hefner influenced me as a young person with a good quote, it was like a sniper shooting from a wholly unexpected angle, something like:
"Only women and fairies believe in the occult."
This revealed an interesting "get real," GIT'ER DONE attitude somehow.
Now you've got me wondering. I can think of a few women I've known who believed in the occult (in which category I throw astrology), but I can't think of any men, fairies or otherwise.
Though, when you think about it, religion is a form of the occult, and I know plenty of people who believe in that.
(Honesty is like a disease with me, I end up offending everyone.)
Virtually everyone who knows John finds him completely tactless and insufferably opinionated. He sees himself as refreshingly honest. That said, this blog is still an excellent way to kill time while putting off work. If you're a newcomer, you might find browsing through the older posts an amusing waste of time as well. John is the author of "Holy Bible Part II: Heaven" under the pseudonym John Morgan.
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People who fret about such things would say Hugh Hefner was part of the Cultural Marxist conspiracy to corrupt Protestant bourgeois values by normalizing moral degeneracy.
Mark --
I seem to hear the argument about moral degeneracy made fairly frequently, and to tell the truth, don't really get it. If Hefner was guilty of this, the "moral degeneracy" he promoted was certainly of a fairly tame variety. Nude pictures of wholesome girls? Back in the day, Playboy never even showed anything all that hardcore (by Hustler standards, at least): just a discreet view of some public hair, that was about it.
To me, "moral degeneracy" means, where one stands on the sociopathy scale. And how dishonest and hypocritical one is. Howard Stern used to be accused of degeneracy all the time, but I just saw him as honest. And he was scathingly honest about himself, as well as others.
The Left itself is incredibly morally wanting these days, at least as measured by their lack of honesty and their one-sided coverage of the news. "Degeneracy" isn't the first word that comes to mind, but I suppose it applies.
As far as normalizing various perverse sexualities, I seem to have more sympathy for gays and so on than most on the Right do, as I don't see it as a matter of choice, or even morality. To me, a heterosexual who marries someone purely for his or her money is far more morally wanting than a gay who has consensual sex with someone else just for the fun of it.
For some reason I always felt sorry for Hef. He seemed to be stuck playing the same part for 50 plus years. He was part of the Playboy brand and as such was not allowed to change as he got older. I wonder if he ever looked back and thought that he missed out on growing old with a soulmate.
GT --
That's a good point about how he was typecast, and, in a sense, forced to live that lifestyle, as pathetic as it appeared once he passed 80. And there's something to be said for long-lasting love. On the other hand, I never really got the sense that he was suffering. And I suspect most guys would have gladly changed places with him if they'd had the chance.
I wasn't thinking of the centerfold pictures (although I was in my 20's before I learned girls don't have staples in their belly button). I was thinking of the Playboy Philosophy of perpetual adolescence, never settling down to build a home and family and a life-long relationship. That's a huge departure from the white Protestants moral values of previous generations.
Today the institution of marriage itself is crumbling, with the white illegitimacy rate higher than the rate for blacks of a few decades ago.
Mark --
Ah, gotcha. Okay, that's true, they did promote a sort of extended adolescence. And yes, that was a sea change from previous attitudes.
I"m not a huge fan of the institution of marriage, but it does promote stability. And kids to seem to be better off in intact families.
Hugh Hefner made it to 91, a good, long life. He had four children, one I learned was from his first marriage, David. This son never entered or involved himself in his father's business. I wonder why. Anyway, may Hugh Hefner RIP.
- Susan
Susan --
I'll say he had a good life.
He was a promoter of civil rights, back when it actually meant civil rights, in the 60's, so is a liberal icon despite the fact that what he's really famous for is getting pretty young females to take their clothes off so he could take pictures of them. (That's why the feminists don't go after him with quite the fervor they might otherwise.)
I say the same GOOD COMPLIMENT for Hefner that we use for Hitler or Vanilla Ice or Jack Kerouac (basically we use this compliment for anyone who was ever ascendant, anybody who wasn't born into their FLASHY ROLE, so, you couldn't say this of Prince Charles) namely:
HE HAD A GOOD RUN.
Also Hefner influenced me as a young person with a good quote, it was like a sniper shooting from a wholly unexpected angle, something like:
"Only women and fairies believe in the occult."
This revealed an interesting "get real," GIT'ER DONE attitude somehow.
====GUINEA HENWEED
GUINEA HENWEED --
Yes, he did have a good run.
Now you've got me wondering. I can think of a few women I've known who believed in the occult (in which category I throw astrology), but I can't think of any men, fairies or otherwise.
Though, when you think about it, religion is a form of the occult, and I know plenty of people who believe in that.
(Honesty is like a disease with me, I end up offending everyone.)
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