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Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Where to draw the line on weapons

The gun rights advocates are certainly right about how poorly gun control laws work and how criminals don't pay any attention to such laws anyway. But it's still hard to justify assault weapons.

No one uses an AR-15 during deer season. And for purposes of defending your home, shotguns, which nobody is talking about banning, are far more effective. (AR-15s are certainly a lot more fun to shoot though, and they look more badass.) 

So there's no legitimate need for an AR-15. 

On the other hand, very few murders are committed with them. Over 98% of firearm murders are committed with handguns. So if we're seriously interested in "saving the children," as so many gun control advocates put it, maybe we should allow AR-15's but ban handguns.

You hear a lot these days about how the Second Amendment was created so that the populace could defend itself against a tyrannical government. Our government is far more corrupt than tyrannical. But either way, whenever I hear someone quote that as a reason to allow assault weapons, I always wonder how a few Michigan Militia types with their AR-15's think they're going to stave off the US Army.

To fight the government, you'd obviously need much more firepower. Yet no one complains about the fact that hand grenades, bazookas, and shoulder-fired missiles (like the Stinger, which can take down a commercial jet) are illegal.

Or for that matter, atomic bombs.

This is of course ridiculous, but the point is, drawing a line between any two deadly weapon seems a little arbitrary. Assault weapons are scarier, but they tend to be toys for law-abiding citizens, whereas the more easily concealed handguns are almost always the weapon of choice for criminals.

So, where does that leave us?

Everyone seems to agree that more stringent background checks are in order. To that we should probably add more training in the use of firearms, along the lines of driver's ed courses. 

But beyond that? 

One solution would be to severely restrict carry permits, but allow everyone to keep a gun -- of any type they want -- in their home. That would take away the Wild West atmosphere so many decry, yet allow people to protect their families at home. Then again, that would make law-abiding citizens easier prey for criminals, by multiplying the "gun free zone" effect. (Declaring a place is a gun free zone is tantamount to announcing, "Victims inside!")

Another solution would be to increase the age at which one is allowed to purchase a firearm to 30. Violent criminals do tend to be younger, and robbery victims older. And by age 30, it's clear whether someone is going to develop schizoid tendencies or not. But it does seem unfair to ask soldiers -- most of whom are younger than 30 -- to risk their lives in war, then take away their right to defend themselves at home.

Another solution would be to simply stiffen the penalties for illegal gun possession, and increase stop and frisks. That would get guns out of the hands of criminals, who are the real problem to start with. This upsets the civil libertarians, who object if minorities are disproportionately frisked, even if minorities commit a disproportionate number of murders.

Some combination of the second and third solutions would probably be most effective, but there's certainly no easy answer.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

John--unfortunately none of what you say will ever happen because it makes too much sense. Well, maybe someday! Brian

John Craig said...

Brian -- I'm sure what they'll end up doing is taking away the larger magazine sizes for assault weapons, and maybe create some kind of national registry, plus tighten background checks. The background checks will help a little, the other changes will accomplish nothing.

Chris Mallory said...

Ask the rebels in Iraq, Afghanistan and Viet Nam how small arms work against the US Army. Of course the Feebs were able to respond with carpet bombing and mass destruction to fight those people. Will they be willing to do the same on American soil? Can you see the Feebs carpet bombing Omaha?

As for grenades and bazookas being illegal, they aren't. All you have to do is buy a tax stamp from the ATF. I imagine the stinger would be much the same, if you can find on on the legal open market.

Atomic weapons? Outside the price range of every one except a few multi-millionaires/billionaires.

People do hunt game with the AR-15.

John Craig said...

Chris --
I've never heard the word "Feebs" before; I take it you're referring to the Feds.

I had been told that grenades and bazookas were illegal, but you sound better informed than me. (I have to guess those tax stamps are hard to get.)

Also, I'm not a hunter but had been under the impression that most hunters considered AR-15's unsporting. But again, you probably know better than me.

I only mention atomic bombs to make the point about drawing lines between different deadly weapons.

Anyway, thanks for the corrections.

Unknown said...

One important question that never seem's to never get properly answered is why "The People" need to own such military type weapons. I sure the many answers you get went way back to the olden days of "Muskets and Red Coats", but a closer more representative answer lays with a post WWII incident in 1946,
THE BATTLE OF ATHENS, TENNESSEE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBuKcSXl9hE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEj9HuRgPqg&feature=endscreen&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=HdGJhkXal7o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ut6yPrObw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9fVABaWkAM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

http://www.americanheritage.com/content/battle-athens

http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/athens.htm


I do not post these links to bore you, merely to to show you that this was not some "blown out of proportions" event that is now more folk lore than truth, but was a real event in which citizens took up arms to fight tyranny.

Whether it be local or national, TYRANNY must, and will never be tolerated by those Americans who respect and defend the Constitution of the United States. We understand that FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.


Obama to Top Brass: Will you fire on American Citizens?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzT6X3_Bg9o

John Craig said...

Louis --
Sorry, I'm unable to keep the direct link capacity when I approve comments for this blog.

The Battle of Athens, Tennessee is interesting, but it doesn't really negate what I said about the odds of any local group taking on the US Army.

The video about Obama's litmus test is amazing. How can that not have gotten more publicity?

Anonymous said...

The Second Amendment is not about hunting or target shooting. It's about citizens defending themselves when its government - even ours - becomes tyrannical.

As for so-called 'Assault' weapons holding off the U.S. military, consider Afghanistan. They were able to hold off and defeat BOTH the Red Army and the U.S. military. The weapons used to do so were primarily AK-47's, RPG's and other small arms. Yes, it can be done!